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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 529120" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>in my opinion the lady is an idiot and a bigoted idiot at that. This is MY opinion and I respect her right to have her opinion and care for her child her way, even if it is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. What really makes me IRATE is her idea that she has some right to tell YOU all this garbage and try to inflict her beliefs on you. She has NO right to do that. </p><p></p><p>Quite frankly she is keeping her child from having a full life and is inflicting a lot of unnecessary guilt on her child. This can only cripple her child and I feel very sorry for them both. Chnces are that if this woman persists in this line of thought/behavior/belief, her daughter will pull away from her in a major way and will act out HUGELY as a teen, and as an adult the daughter may very well hate her. I have known quite a few families wehre the kids were raised with this line of thought. As adults that is exactly how the kids raised that way felt. I know one guy I went to school with who is dyslexic and told tht if he just had enough faith he wuoldn't be dyslexic anymore. He will not even speak to his parents if he sees them at the store (I have seen this happen - they try to talk to him and his kids and he walks away as if they were not even there.) and he refuses to let them even speak to his children. His parents tried to sue for grandparents' rights and in our state if the parents are married you cannot even file. WHen he divorced his parents filed again and he flat out told the judge that they abused him, and how they abused him with this garbage, and the judge said that not only do they not get gparent's rights, if they continued to try to speak to the kids at their ball games, then they would get slapped iwth a restraining order. It was a big relief to the parents because the gparents were showing up at games yelling things to the kdis about this nonsense. I know because his kids were on teams with my kids - the whole town knew.</p><p></p><p>I have neighbors who believe this nonsense. The dad is ALL about how faith fixes everything and they are so much better than everyone. He has soooooo much faith that he beats his wife, daughter, animals and anyone who upsets him. He has so much faith that he drinks beer all night and goes around town preaching about how alcohol is the tool of the devil and how he is so wonderful because he doesn't drink. Again, stuff I have seen firsthand. right after we moved his wife came over and I was in bed with a migraine so she forced her way past my kids, came into my BEDROOM and started praying over me. I couldn't get up right away because the migraine but within five min she was worse than the migraine so I got up and had to drag her out of my home. Then she came back, after ranting at me about how I needed to pray and my health would be fixed adn I wouldn't need docs or medications, and seh wanted ME to go talk to her husband and tell him that beating her was wrong!!! I told her to get off my property and go to the DV center, that if anyone from ehr home came to our property I was going to call the cops and then put a hex on her because I was Druid - Orthodox Reformed. (I am not, not even sure there IS a Druid, Orthodox Reformed religion. I know druidism is a religion but the other is nonsense my dad made up. He used to tell the nuns at the Cath school I went to that it was our family religion. Got me a LOT of extra religion classes, but it WAS funny.)</p><p></p><p>I have NO patience for people who want to inflict that kind of religious abuse on children or other people. If you want to believe that, go right ahead. But don't inflict it on kids and don't even TRY to get it near me. Most people who buy into that kind of thing are not able to explain WHY they feel that this is a rational belief or even explain WHERE in the Bible it says that.</p><p></p><p>This reminds me of a joke I heard once. It is a joke, but it is also an interesting perspective and thought on this topic.</p><p></p><p>A woman was home alone when a major flood happened. She was out in the yard wehn it started and a neighbor offered her a ride to safe ground. </p><p></p><p>She said "No. The Lord will take care of me. He will provide."</p><p></p><p>The water started to get deep. The Sheriff came by and told her she had to leave. He had a truck and wanted to give her a ride to safe ground. </p><p></p><p>She said, "No The Lord will take care of me. He will provide."</p><p></p><p>She went to the roof as the house flooded. A man came by in a boat and offered her a ride to safe ground.</p><p></p><p>She said, "No The Lord will take care of me. He will provide."</p><p></p><p>Then a helicopter came and a rescue worker came down on a ladder to help her up to the helicopter to fly her to safety.</p><p></p><p>She said, "No The Lord will take care of me. He will provide."</p><p></p><p>She died and went up to Heaven. She asked the Lord why he didn't save her, why he let her drown.</p><p></p><p>God said, "What do you mean? I sent your neighbor, the Sheriff, a man in a boat and men in a helicopter. Why didn't you go with them? Why did you stay there and drown?"</p><p></p><p>I honestly believe that we have learned what we know about hygeine, health, safety, medicine and modern surgery, medications, therapy, etc... because the Lord wanted us to, because he HELPED us figure these things out. I don't really care if you call him God, the Lord, your higher power, or whatever. I don't mean the God of any particular religion. I just believe that we were guided to learn these things, figure these things out for a reason. Not to prove there isn't a God, but because he wants us to use our intelligence to help ourselves.</p><p></p><p>I know others dont' believe this, and I am okay with that. I just think that this makes a heck of a lot more sense than us having learned all this stuff and having a God who wants us to NOT use this knowledge, the full range of human intelligence. </p><p></p><p>I would not argue with this woman. She isn't smart enough to understand. But why would God have allowed us to have these tools and this knowledge and want us to not help ourselves with it?</p><p></p><p>Again, these are MY beliefs and I am okay if yours are different as long as you don't harm others iwth your beliefs. in my opinion this woman is harming YOU with this nonsense and she is harming her child with her beliefs. A loving God does not want that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 529120, member: 1233"] in my opinion the lady is an idiot and a bigoted idiot at that. This is MY opinion and I respect her right to have her opinion and care for her child her way, even if it is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. What really makes me IRATE is her idea that she has some right to tell YOU all this garbage and try to inflict her beliefs on you. She has NO right to do that. Quite frankly she is keeping her child from having a full life and is inflicting a lot of unnecessary guilt on her child. This can only cripple her child and I feel very sorry for them both. Chnces are that if this woman persists in this line of thought/behavior/belief, her daughter will pull away from her in a major way and will act out HUGELY as a teen, and as an adult the daughter may very well hate her. I have known quite a few families wehre the kids were raised with this line of thought. As adults that is exactly how the kids raised that way felt. I know one guy I went to school with who is dyslexic and told tht if he just had enough faith he wuoldn't be dyslexic anymore. He will not even speak to his parents if he sees them at the store (I have seen this happen - they try to talk to him and his kids and he walks away as if they were not even there.) and he refuses to let them even speak to his children. His parents tried to sue for grandparents' rights and in our state if the parents are married you cannot even file. WHen he divorced his parents filed again and he flat out told the judge that they abused him, and how they abused him with this garbage, and the judge said that not only do they not get gparent's rights, if they continued to try to speak to the kids at their ball games, then they would get slapped iwth a restraining order. It was a big relief to the parents because the gparents were showing up at games yelling things to the kdis about this nonsense. I know because his kids were on teams with my kids - the whole town knew. I have neighbors who believe this nonsense. The dad is ALL about how faith fixes everything and they are so much better than everyone. He has soooooo much faith that he beats his wife, daughter, animals and anyone who upsets him. He has so much faith that he drinks beer all night and goes around town preaching about how alcohol is the tool of the devil and how he is so wonderful because he doesn't drink. Again, stuff I have seen firsthand. right after we moved his wife came over and I was in bed with a migraine so she forced her way past my kids, came into my BEDROOM and started praying over me. I couldn't get up right away because the migraine but within five min she was worse than the migraine so I got up and had to drag her out of my home. Then she came back, after ranting at me about how I needed to pray and my health would be fixed adn I wouldn't need docs or medications, and seh wanted ME to go talk to her husband and tell him that beating her was wrong!!! I told her to get off my property and go to the DV center, that if anyone from ehr home came to our property I was going to call the cops and then put a hex on her because I was Druid - Orthodox Reformed. (I am not, not even sure there IS a Druid, Orthodox Reformed religion. I know druidism is a religion but the other is nonsense my dad made up. He used to tell the nuns at the Cath school I went to that it was our family religion. Got me a LOT of extra religion classes, but it WAS funny.) I have NO patience for people who want to inflict that kind of religious abuse on children or other people. If you want to believe that, go right ahead. But don't inflict it on kids and don't even TRY to get it near me. Most people who buy into that kind of thing are not able to explain WHY they feel that this is a rational belief or even explain WHERE in the Bible it says that. This reminds me of a joke I heard once. It is a joke, but it is also an interesting perspective and thought on this topic. A woman was home alone when a major flood happened. She was out in the yard wehn it started and a neighbor offered her a ride to safe ground. She said "No. The Lord will take care of me. He will provide." The water started to get deep. The Sheriff came by and told her she had to leave. He had a truck and wanted to give her a ride to safe ground. She said, "No The Lord will take care of me. He will provide." She went to the roof as the house flooded. A man came by in a boat and offered her a ride to safe ground. She said, "No The Lord will take care of me. He will provide." Then a helicopter came and a rescue worker came down on a ladder to help her up to the helicopter to fly her to safety. She said, "No The Lord will take care of me. He will provide." She died and went up to Heaven. She asked the Lord why he didn't save her, why he let her drown. God said, "What do you mean? I sent your neighbor, the Sheriff, a man in a boat and men in a helicopter. Why didn't you go with them? Why did you stay there and drown?" I honestly believe that we have learned what we know about hygeine, health, safety, medicine and modern surgery, medications, therapy, etc... because the Lord wanted us to, because he HELPED us figure these things out. I don't really care if you call him God, the Lord, your higher power, or whatever. I don't mean the God of any particular religion. I just believe that we were guided to learn these things, figure these things out for a reason. Not to prove there isn't a God, but because he wants us to use our intelligence to help ourselves. I know others dont' believe this, and I am okay with that. I just think that this makes a heck of a lot more sense than us having learned all this stuff and having a God who wants us to NOT use this knowledge, the full range of human intelligence. I would not argue with this woman. She isn't smart enough to understand. But why would God have allowed us to have these tools and this knowledge and want us to not help ourselves with it? Again, these are MY beliefs and I am okay if yours are different as long as you don't harm others iwth your beliefs. in my opinion this woman is harming YOU with this nonsense and she is harming her child with her beliefs. A loving God does not want that. [/QUOTE]
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