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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 606112" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>There is a built in loop hole for that in his contract. If either his team doctor or difficult child's psychiatrist (that is not affiliated with his current team in any way) consider GA meetings either detrimental, or not enough, for difficult child, the team is obliged to provide difficult child with more suitable care. Of course team is already obliged to provide players suitable health care by the CBA between the league and player union, but in negotiations difficult child took a pay cut to have his own psychiatrist to be a decision maker in this.</p><p></p><p>Without that difficult child is not likely to get out of it. For the team GA is a no-cost option and shows 'they did everything possible to help difficult child' if things go south. Other options would cost them, some of them cost a lot. There is very high quality professional gambling treatment near difficult child, but it is public. Meaning you have to actually have a need for the treatment to get in. difficult child has graduated from similar program here at home and has not been in need for treatment in some time and is actually doing good. To get in to public treatment difficult child would need to lie about his situation. And I don't like that.</p><p></p><p>Much more suitable option for difficult child in this point would be meeting your average, non specified talk therapist for supportive therapy to cover areas of difficult child life more broadly. But again, that would cost money to difficult child's team and there is also a point that difficult child's team GM is very enthusiast about AA himself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is actually not so farfetched. While most gamblers are not alcoholics per se, drinking and gambling are often intervened and many have to stop drinking to get over their gambling addiction. Alcohol makes people more impulsive and with gamblers that leads to gambling. It really is common for gamblers to relapse when they drink, especially when they are early in recovery. difficult child is not your typical gambler, because he was so young when he gambled and also stopped so young. Many start young, but very few have such a quick and steep downward spiral difficult child had. What most gambler go through in ten years or more, difficult child went through in under ten months. And he was underage child living at home during that time, so he didn't have a chance or time to develop certain typical rituals many gamblers have. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>GA does have some different practises than other anonymous groups to my knowledge. They do concentrate more to practical problems (gamblers often have huge financial and legal issues) and they also have these 'pressure relief groups' that apparently can be very confrontational. Maybe that attitude spills more to regular groups too, don't know. </p><p></p><p>I'm sure fast majority of group members do follow the rules and respect the anonymity. But there are no legal obligations. And it only needs one who doesn't. difficult child has his own trust issues, but aside of that difficult child's agent is very experienced, shrewd, seen it all and careful. (Yes, there is a reason we chose this particular agent to our sons.) And difficult child does listen to him, when it comes to decisions that may effect his career.</p><p></p><p>difficult child does have very negative attitude towards twelve steps. He doesn't like the religiousness of it, neither does he like that it is not science based or have scientifically proven success. He cetrtainly isbn't keen to embrace it, so I don't even expect him to get much out of it. Or even less believe it would work for him. But the whole point is, that it doesn't need to actually work. If it doesn't damage him or hinder him, it is enough. If it is just waste of his time, it is a wonderful outcome. It satisfied his contract obligation and if he just looses few hours of tv watching time because of that; too bad, so sad.</p><p></p><p>What I do worry about is, that he may get hurt by it. I did talk about this whole sponsor business and other concerns with him and his agent, but difficult child feels he can handle it for now. So it is wait and see.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 606112, member: 14557"] There is a built in loop hole for that in his contract. If either his team doctor or difficult child's psychiatrist (that is not affiliated with his current team in any way) consider GA meetings either detrimental, or not enough, for difficult child, the team is obliged to provide difficult child with more suitable care. Of course team is already obliged to provide players suitable health care by the CBA between the league and player union, but in negotiations difficult child took a pay cut to have his own psychiatrist to be a decision maker in this. Without that difficult child is not likely to get out of it. For the team GA is a no-cost option and shows 'they did everything possible to help difficult child' if things go south. Other options would cost them, some of them cost a lot. There is very high quality professional gambling treatment near difficult child, but it is public. Meaning you have to actually have a need for the treatment to get in. difficult child has graduated from similar program here at home and has not been in need for treatment in some time and is actually doing good. To get in to public treatment difficult child would need to lie about his situation. And I don't like that. Much more suitable option for difficult child in this point would be meeting your average, non specified talk therapist for supportive therapy to cover areas of difficult child life more broadly. But again, that would cost money to difficult child's team and there is also a point that difficult child's team GM is very enthusiast about AA himself. This is actually not so farfetched. While most gamblers are not alcoholics per se, drinking and gambling are often intervened and many have to stop drinking to get over their gambling addiction. Alcohol makes people more impulsive and with gamblers that leads to gambling. It really is common for gamblers to relapse when they drink, especially when they are early in recovery. difficult child is not your typical gambler, because he was so young when he gambled and also stopped so young. Many start young, but very few have such a quick and steep downward spiral difficult child had. What most gambler go through in ten years or more, difficult child went through in under ten months. And he was underage child living at home during that time, so he didn't have a chance or time to develop certain typical rituals many gamblers have. GA does have some different practises than other anonymous groups to my knowledge. They do concentrate more to practical problems (gamblers often have huge financial and legal issues) and they also have these 'pressure relief groups' that apparently can be very confrontational. Maybe that attitude spills more to regular groups too, don't know. I'm sure fast majority of group members do follow the rules and respect the anonymity. But there are no legal obligations. And it only needs one who doesn't. difficult child has his own trust issues, but aside of that difficult child's agent is very experienced, shrewd, seen it all and careful. (Yes, there is a reason we chose this particular agent to our sons.) And difficult child does listen to him, when it comes to decisions that may effect his career. difficult child does have very negative attitude towards twelve steps. He doesn't like the religiousness of it, neither does he like that it is not science based or have scientifically proven success. He cetrtainly isbn't keen to embrace it, so I don't even expect him to get much out of it. Or even less believe it would work for him. But the whole point is, that it doesn't need to actually work. If it doesn't damage him or hinder him, it is enough. If it is just waste of his time, it is a wonderful outcome. It satisfied his contract obligation and if he just looses few hours of tv watching time because of that; too bad, so sad. What I do worry about is, that he may get hurt by it. I did talk about this whole sponsor business and other concerns with him and his agent, but difficult child feels he can handle it for now. So it is wait and see. [/QUOTE]
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