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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 494292" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Yeah- and that's what the reentry lady said- except she specifically said the absolute possible soonest was 4 mos but that was nearly impossible and no one has done it. (that's exactly what she said) PO's super sat right there and told difficult child 3 mos, then when I specifically asked her if that meant if he behaved there, followed parole requirements, and obviously didn't commit a crimnal act, would they order a release in 3 mos and she looked shocked and said "oh, I didn't say that". This is one reason I want to get this in front of a judge- let's see how evasive they become then. 9 mos would basicly age difficult child out and I think that's what they want- the reunification and academic goals are carrots that they don't even consider consistent with THEIR goals and that is for difficult child to work full time and be on his own. But there are requirements for Department of Juvenile Justice and judges to tell a kid and the parent the reality of any sentence, requirements, etc, and give it in writing- another strike against them. They could have ordered a 3 mos stay with purposes of reunification and I don't think they can justify what they are doing when there is a LRE and the kid isn't a foster kid and he's done his sentence incarcerated. They should spend the money on a 17 yo coming out who really will never have a family to go to and has no feasible choice except to get out on his own. All the kids are required to get a job, even full time students and I can just see the whole thing leaving difficult child feeling like he'd rather be in a Department of Juvenile Justice facility than to give up on what he said he wanted to work another long term program where living conditions are worse and more dangerous (gangs) than inside a facility. DSS isn't allowed to do this sort of koi- they have to have a reunification plan if there's a family member AND it has to be reviewed by a judge periodically. I'm thinking Department of Juvenile Justice should be required to do the same since difficult child isn't going to a gh as a sanction (supposedly), it's not a step-down during a sentenced time period, I never lost parental rights, we both want reunification, I could go on and on.....</p><p></p><p>And I'd love to have difficult child sitting in on VC participating in a hearing listening to PO spilling out all his reasons to justify this when they tried to tell difficult child that the reason was becuase of me. Uh- then why am I in court asking for the same thing I ask for to begin with? A short term placement to gradually integrate us and preferably, have some traditional family therapy (not behavior contract) at that place during that period, just to make sure we get out the worst emotions and we can handle them and we aren't heading right back into a crisis- we could continue longer term stuff after he comes back home as long as I know we aren't going into crisis.</p><p></p><p>Check this out- the Department of Juvenile Justice facility recommended him coming home with a stabilization group to help us adjust. I have no idea what that is, but it sounds good. LOL! That should play into court, too. If the ONLY people who want a gh stay are the people who just got funding and want it approved for next year and PO, I'm thinking it we have a good chance of getting better in court- especially since I'm the victim of the committing offenses and never covered for my kid and I'm saying this is all it would take for me to bring him home- a gradual transition to see how things are headed. But I also drew a line with PO in that we cannot be bombarded with orders/services that cause us more stress than halp any problem and serve no purpose in true monitoring of his compliance with parole- or that cost me another job.</p><p></p><p>I'm hoping to hear back from attny tomorrow. I plan to put a request in for a hearing by end of this week or Monday at the latest. Hopefully, attny won't bail on me and I won't have to go it alone. Attny heard hallf these converstaions and has figured out I'm telling the truth and they are misleading us. I just don't think she's quite as knowledgable on the 'rights' of a juvenile who's declared a delinquent- such as that they are to receive their sentence, requirements, parole plan, etc, in writing and the parent gets a copy. </p><p></p><p>PO even tried to tell me it was ok for me to go to difficult child's IEP mtg- WTF? I'm his only rep while difficult child's incarcerated and they think I need their permission when he's not? That's when I reminded them that I haven't lost my parental rights.</p><p></p><p>Anyone can chime in if they have experience, comments, whatever- I just thought of Step first due to her current situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 494292, member: 3699"] Yeah- and that's what the reentry lady said- except she specifically said the absolute possible soonest was 4 mos but that was nearly impossible and no one has done it. (that's exactly what she said) PO's super sat right there and told difficult child 3 mos, then when I specifically asked her if that meant if he behaved there, followed parole requirements, and obviously didn't commit a crimnal act, would they order a release in 3 mos and she looked shocked and said "oh, I didn't say that". This is one reason I want to get this in front of a judge- let's see how evasive they become then. 9 mos would basicly age difficult child out and I think that's what they want- the reunification and academic goals are carrots that they don't even consider consistent with THEIR goals and that is for difficult child to work full time and be on his own. But there are requirements for Department of Juvenile Justice and judges to tell a kid and the parent the reality of any sentence, requirements, etc, and give it in writing- another strike against them. They could have ordered a 3 mos stay with purposes of reunification and I don't think they can justify what they are doing when there is a LRE and the kid isn't a foster kid and he's done his sentence incarcerated. They should spend the money on a 17 yo coming out who really will never have a family to go to and has no feasible choice except to get out on his own. All the kids are required to get a job, even full time students and I can just see the whole thing leaving difficult child feeling like he'd rather be in a Department of Juvenile Justice facility than to give up on what he said he wanted to work another long term program where living conditions are worse and more dangerous (gangs) than inside a facility. DSS isn't allowed to do this sort of koi- they have to have a reunification plan if there's a family member AND it has to be reviewed by a judge periodically. I'm thinking Department of Juvenile Justice should be required to do the same since difficult child isn't going to a gh as a sanction (supposedly), it's not a step-down during a sentenced time period, I never lost parental rights, we both want reunification, I could go on and on..... And I'd love to have difficult child sitting in on VC participating in a hearing listening to PO spilling out all his reasons to justify this when they tried to tell difficult child that the reason was becuase of me. Uh- then why am I in court asking for the same thing I ask for to begin with? A short term placement to gradually integrate us and preferably, have some traditional family therapy (not behavior contract) at that place during that period, just to make sure we get out the worst emotions and we can handle them and we aren't heading right back into a crisis- we could continue longer term stuff after he comes back home as long as I know we aren't going into crisis. Check this out- the Department of Juvenile Justice facility recommended him coming home with a stabilization group to help us adjust. I have no idea what that is, but it sounds good. LOL! That should play into court, too. If the ONLY people who want a gh stay are the people who just got funding and want it approved for next year and PO, I'm thinking it we have a good chance of getting better in court- especially since I'm the victim of the committing offenses and never covered for my kid and I'm saying this is all it would take for me to bring him home- a gradual transition to see how things are headed. But I also drew a line with PO in that we cannot be bombarded with orders/services that cause us more stress than halp any problem and serve no purpose in true monitoring of his compliance with parole- or that cost me another job. I'm hoping to hear back from attny tomorrow. I plan to put a request in for a hearing by end of this week or Monday at the latest. Hopefully, attny won't bail on me and I won't have to go it alone. Attny heard hallf these converstaions and has figured out I'm telling the truth and they are misleading us. I just don't think she's quite as knowledgable on the 'rights' of a juvenile who's declared a delinquent- such as that they are to receive their sentence, requirements, parole plan, etc, in writing and the parent gets a copy. PO even tried to tell me it was ok for me to go to difficult child's IEP mtg- WTF? I'm his only rep while difficult child's incarcerated and they think I need their permission when he's not? That's when I reminded them that I haven't lost my parental rights. Anyone can chime in if they have experience, comments, whatever- I just thought of Step first due to her current situation. [/QUOTE]
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