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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 523603" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Other than the Feingold diet, which has been around for decades, I haven't heard much about this. BUT I don't have a child at home with adhd anymore, so I haven't been looking at the most recent research.</p><p></p><p>I CAN give help for reducing/eliminating most artificial food color/preservatives, because I have severe migraines and have had to do this since my teens. One of the key things is to stop buying mixes and convenience foods. Even foods labelled organic and/or dye free should not be assumed to be okay, and you have to read the recipes. this does NOT mean you are chained to the kitchen or cannot ever eat out again. how? By making your own mixes and convenience foods and planning ahead. if you plan, and make your own things, you can actually SAVE money once you are used to a routine. I made our mixes for well over a decade, including 3 years spent cooking for 8-9 people nightly as we lived with extended family, and I was NOT chained to the kitchen or grocery store. </p><p></p><p>HOW to make mixes, esp for cake mixes, breads, etc...??? I use a great cookbook called "Make a Mix Cookery" by Eliason et al, and I have created some of my own based on recipes that I love. I have a super easy chocolate cake recipe that is from scratch, and if I am out of mixes, I make a cake and measure out 3-7 more, based on what we will need for the next 2-3 months and the amt of storage space I have. It is a recipe where you don't have to beat the butter and sugar together to start, and is tender, moist, won the county fair twice, and gets raves from everyone who tries it. Even biscuits are really easy if you have a basic recipe and the right equipment, esp after you get used to the process. The other book that is a HUGE help is The Complete Tightwad Gazette by Dacyzian. It is 3 books in one, and has help living a frugal lifestyle including really great recipes, but has help for every aspect of life. you don't have to do everything in the book, and it was written in the 80s so the prices are a bit out of date, but the way tehy were figured can be done pretty easily. Even if you never use anything in the book but the recipes, they more than are worth the price of the book. of course I recommend buying it used from amazon marketplace (starts at $2.61 plus $3.99 shipping, used) or another used bookstore, but that is my personal thngs because I am a major tightwad and always have been.</p><p></p><p>Another way to nOT be chained to the kitchen is to always cook 2-3 meals worth at once, and freeze the extras. i use some of the 'cook once a month for the entire month" cookbooks for recipes, and only make one at a time. it works a lot better for my family.</p><p></p><p>A huge thing to think about is the girlfriend/cf diet. this is the gluten free/casein free diet. MANY people here have had HUGE positive changes n their children AND themselves when they try/stick to this diet - the stories you hear about it are not made up, at least not the ones on this site. the difference can be astounding if food intolerances are the issue. I say intolerances because our allergist says that they are not technically allergies most of the time, but they still have a significant impact on behavior and on the body. My kids were not significantly helped by the elimination diet and challenges, but I do know people who have been. You NEVER know if it will help unless you try it, and when it works it can seem like incredible magic. if you are going to make a change, it might be interesting to try the elimination diet and include food color and preservatves in what you eliminate, and then you can try adding them back in. I will say that for ME the food color/preservative difference is NOT something that showed well on the elim diet because it takes a few hours after the food color or preservative to have the migraine. I know there IS a difference because I did a three month study in college wehre we analyzed everything I ate and drank, and those were the one thing that statistically made a huge difference in the number of migraines I had. That and over 30 yrs of migraines and migraine treatment lets me be sure, but it isn't as clear cut to everyone.</p><p></p><p>I hope this helps. I am sure googling "elimination diet' and checkign the healthy living forum of this board will give more help. Even if you don't go to making all your mixes and cooking from scratch, the 2 books I listed are excellent. Other books to really really ehlp with the 'deprivation' part of cutting out food color and preservatives are the various copycat and "top secret" or 'america's most wanted recipes' cookbooks, the ones with make at home versions of grocery store and restaurant food and drink. You would be ASTOUNDED at the amt of food color in restaurant food. did you know that the wonderful bread from Outback Steakhouse take <strong>30 drops</strong> of food color for a breadmaker loaf?!?! or that red devil cake recipes often call for 2-4 teaspoons of red food color? It tastes even better with-o that, because food color can add a VERY bitter taste. Interestingly, for cake baking they used to have to sell TWO types of red food color - one was called "no taste red" because red food color has an esp awful taste that is VERY noticable in frosting. I think they finally stopped making the old nasty tasting version, or at least it is hard to find anymore, but isn't that interesting? I know bakers who still used the old, bad taste version because it "looked better" in their red velvet cakes. even as a kid before I ever heard of food color causing problems I thought it tasted yucky when food had a bright color from food colorings. </p><p></p><p>i hope this is somewhat helpful, or at least informative. I do, very much, think we would see changes in our chldren if we did not feed them so much food color and artificial preservatives. You can also make natural food colors. the tightwad gazette has instructions that work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 523603, member: 1233"] Other than the Feingold diet, which has been around for decades, I haven't heard much about this. BUT I don't have a child at home with adhd anymore, so I haven't been looking at the most recent research. I CAN give help for reducing/eliminating most artificial food color/preservatives, because I have severe migraines and have had to do this since my teens. One of the key things is to stop buying mixes and convenience foods. Even foods labelled organic and/or dye free should not be assumed to be okay, and you have to read the recipes. this does NOT mean you are chained to the kitchen or cannot ever eat out again. how? By making your own mixes and convenience foods and planning ahead. if you plan, and make your own things, you can actually SAVE money once you are used to a routine. I made our mixes for well over a decade, including 3 years spent cooking for 8-9 people nightly as we lived with extended family, and I was NOT chained to the kitchen or grocery store. HOW to make mixes, esp for cake mixes, breads, etc...??? I use a great cookbook called "Make a Mix Cookery" by Eliason et al, and I have created some of my own based on recipes that I love. I have a super easy chocolate cake recipe that is from scratch, and if I am out of mixes, I make a cake and measure out 3-7 more, based on what we will need for the next 2-3 months and the amt of storage space I have. It is a recipe where you don't have to beat the butter and sugar together to start, and is tender, moist, won the county fair twice, and gets raves from everyone who tries it. Even biscuits are really easy if you have a basic recipe and the right equipment, esp after you get used to the process. The other book that is a HUGE help is The Complete Tightwad Gazette by Dacyzian. It is 3 books in one, and has help living a frugal lifestyle including really great recipes, but has help for every aspect of life. you don't have to do everything in the book, and it was written in the 80s so the prices are a bit out of date, but the way tehy were figured can be done pretty easily. Even if you never use anything in the book but the recipes, they more than are worth the price of the book. of course I recommend buying it used from amazon marketplace (starts at $2.61 plus $3.99 shipping, used) or another used bookstore, but that is my personal thngs because I am a major tightwad and always have been. Another way to nOT be chained to the kitchen is to always cook 2-3 meals worth at once, and freeze the extras. i use some of the 'cook once a month for the entire month" cookbooks for recipes, and only make one at a time. it works a lot better for my family. A huge thing to think about is the girlfriend/cf diet. this is the gluten free/casein free diet. MANY people here have had HUGE positive changes n their children AND themselves when they try/stick to this diet - the stories you hear about it are not made up, at least not the ones on this site. the difference can be astounding if food intolerances are the issue. I say intolerances because our allergist says that they are not technically allergies most of the time, but they still have a significant impact on behavior and on the body. My kids were not significantly helped by the elimination diet and challenges, but I do know people who have been. You NEVER know if it will help unless you try it, and when it works it can seem like incredible magic. if you are going to make a change, it might be interesting to try the elimination diet and include food color and preservatves in what you eliminate, and then you can try adding them back in. I will say that for ME the food color/preservative difference is NOT something that showed well on the elim diet because it takes a few hours after the food color or preservative to have the migraine. I know there IS a difference because I did a three month study in college wehre we analyzed everything I ate and drank, and those were the one thing that statistically made a huge difference in the number of migraines I had. That and over 30 yrs of migraines and migraine treatment lets me be sure, but it isn't as clear cut to everyone. I hope this helps. I am sure googling "elimination diet' and checkign the healthy living forum of this board will give more help. Even if you don't go to making all your mixes and cooking from scratch, the 2 books I listed are excellent. Other books to really really ehlp with the 'deprivation' part of cutting out food color and preservatives are the various copycat and "top secret" or 'america's most wanted recipes' cookbooks, the ones with make at home versions of grocery store and restaurant food and drink. You would be ASTOUNDED at the amt of food color in restaurant food. did you know that the wonderful bread from Outback Steakhouse take [B]30 drops[/B] of food color for a breadmaker loaf?!?! or that red devil cake recipes often call for 2-4 teaspoons of red food color? It tastes even better with-o that, because food color can add a VERY bitter taste. Interestingly, for cake baking they used to have to sell TWO types of red food color - one was called "no taste red" because red food color has an esp awful taste that is VERY noticable in frosting. I think they finally stopped making the old nasty tasting version, or at least it is hard to find anymore, but isn't that interesting? I know bakers who still used the old, bad taste version because it "looked better" in their red velvet cakes. even as a kid before I ever heard of food color causing problems I thought it tasted yucky when food had a bright color from food colorings. i hope this is somewhat helpful, or at least informative. I do, very much, think we would see changes in our chldren if we did not feed them so much food color and artificial preservatives. You can also make natural food colors. the tightwad gazette has instructions that work. [/QUOTE]
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