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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 369888" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I watched a news story about the "white" black baby in Britain. From what I can see, the baby is a blue-eyed albino or something similar. The baby definitely appears to have African features (what in decades past would have been called negroid) but the pale skin and blue eyes. The hair is tightly curly like African hair and the father clearly is content she is his baby ("That is my kid but I don't know why she is blonde"). I think it's lucky for the baby she is living in the UK and not Africa - that sort of pale skin in a high sun country would be dangerous for her. She is certainly going to have very interesting looks as she gets older!</p><p></p><p>A young friend of ours is part-Aboriginal (although in Australia you claim Aboriginality, without fractions, if you can find an ancestor who is Aboriginal). His father is Danish with the classic white-blonde stiff hair, while his mother is a classic Aboriginal woman in appearance, with black, straight hair. But this young man has his mother's heavy facial features, her dark skin but his father's stiff white-blonde hair! His sister looks like their mother - classically Aboriginal, although a little paler in skin colour. The mum has told us of the interesting reactions her son gets when the family goes "back home" to visit her Aboriginal family in traditional lands.</p><p></p><p>We haven't seen anything about the multiple uterus woman, but I have heard of this condition before. I was tested for it at one time. We also wonder if our mother had this - her first set of twins were fairly OK, born the same night although one as smaller. However, they were conceived during one of Dad's leaves in WWII, so Mum didn't get many opportunities to get separately pregnant. Dad was not home on leave often enough for a big difference in conception times, in the case of the first set of twins. But the second set were conceived after WWII and Dad had been home for a few years; and one twin was 2 months premature while the other was full-term. That's what the doctors told Mum. Both sets fraternal. All born vaginally.</p><p></p><p>The problem with a bifid uterus, is that the hormones of delivery will affect the whole body. The baby's adrenal land (I think - I'm going from memory here) triggers the release of oxytocin which starts labour. I can't remember all the hormonal pathways, but a natural labour begins with the mother's body being flooded with oxytocin, which triggers the uterus to contract. The hormone is released form the pituitary (located just under the brain) which then acts remotely on the uterus (and other pats of the body including the breasts for lactation). With a bifid uterus, all the uterus would be stimulated by oxytocin, and so both sides would get emptied. Under some carefully managed medical conditions, you can manage to deliver one twin but not another (bifid uterus or normal uterus) but generally, this is less common. For example, a woman pregnant with twins can have one die in utero and sometimes miscarry one; the risk to the other also miscarrying (or being born prematurely) is greatly increased. Caesarean carried out carefully can increase the chances of saving the remaining baby.</p><p></p><p>So if with a bifid uterus carrying different birthdate babies, unless both babies can be born on he same day (by taking a calculated risk that the premature one can be cared for sufficiently) then some means of preventing the first baby's labour triggering oxytocin flooding of the mother's body must be undertaken. Caesarean is a common method.</p><p></p><p>Actually, when I was being tested for a bifid uterus, I was told it could mean I would have trouble getting pregnant or carrying a child to term. Certainly with my mother, her main problem with pregnancy was - "how do I prevent it?" She kept having kids and no form of contraception seemed to work. She had a Dalkon Shield in place (I believe that was what she told me) when she had the second twins. She carried the IUD to term with the twins.</p><p></p><p>That was back in the late 40s, if doctors had known that my mother had a bifid uterus, they still might not have bothered to tell her, not if it wasn't causing her problems in childbirth.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 369888, member: 1991"] I watched a news story about the "white" black baby in Britain. From what I can see, the baby is a blue-eyed albino or something similar. The baby definitely appears to have African features (what in decades past would have been called negroid) but the pale skin and blue eyes. The hair is tightly curly like African hair and the father clearly is content she is his baby ("That is my kid but I don't know why she is blonde"). I think it's lucky for the baby she is living in the UK and not Africa - that sort of pale skin in a high sun country would be dangerous for her. She is certainly going to have very interesting looks as she gets older! A young friend of ours is part-Aboriginal (although in Australia you claim Aboriginality, without fractions, if you can find an ancestor who is Aboriginal). His father is Danish with the classic white-blonde stiff hair, while his mother is a classic Aboriginal woman in appearance, with black, straight hair. But this young man has his mother's heavy facial features, her dark skin but his father's stiff white-blonde hair! His sister looks like their mother - classically Aboriginal, although a little paler in skin colour. The mum has told us of the interesting reactions her son gets when the family goes "back home" to visit her Aboriginal family in traditional lands. We haven't seen anything about the multiple uterus woman, but I have heard of this condition before. I was tested for it at one time. We also wonder if our mother had this - her first set of twins were fairly OK, born the same night although one as smaller. However, they were conceived during one of Dad's leaves in WWII, so Mum didn't get many opportunities to get separately pregnant. Dad was not home on leave often enough for a big difference in conception times, in the case of the first set of twins. But the second set were conceived after WWII and Dad had been home for a few years; and one twin was 2 months premature while the other was full-term. That's what the doctors told Mum. Both sets fraternal. All born vaginally. The problem with a bifid uterus, is that the hormones of delivery will affect the whole body. The baby's adrenal land (I think - I'm going from memory here) triggers the release of oxytocin which starts labour. I can't remember all the hormonal pathways, but a natural labour begins with the mother's body being flooded with oxytocin, which triggers the uterus to contract. The hormone is released form the pituitary (located just under the brain) which then acts remotely on the uterus (and other pats of the body including the breasts for lactation). With a bifid uterus, all the uterus would be stimulated by oxytocin, and so both sides would get emptied. Under some carefully managed medical conditions, you can manage to deliver one twin but not another (bifid uterus or normal uterus) but generally, this is less common. For example, a woman pregnant with twins can have one die in utero and sometimes miscarry one; the risk to the other also miscarrying (or being born prematurely) is greatly increased. Caesarean carried out carefully can increase the chances of saving the remaining baby. So if with a bifid uterus carrying different birthdate babies, unless both babies can be born on he same day (by taking a calculated risk that the premature one can be cared for sufficiently) then some means of preventing the first baby's labour triggering oxytocin flooding of the mother's body must be undertaken. Caesarean is a common method. Actually, when I was being tested for a bifid uterus, I was told it could mean I would have trouble getting pregnant or carrying a child to term. Certainly with my mother, her main problem with pregnancy was - "how do I prevent it?" She kept having kids and no form of contraception seemed to work. She had a Dalkon Shield in place (I believe that was what she told me) when she had the second twins. She carried the IUD to term with the twins. That was back in the late 40s, if doctors had known that my mother had a bifid uterus, they still might not have bothered to tell her, not if it wasn't causing her problems in childbirth. Marg [/QUOTE]
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