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<blockquote data-quote="dreamer" data-source="post: 232542" data-attributes="member: 1697"><p>Im sitting here thinking about a teen boy who hs threatened to hurt HIMSELF......and a bunch of strong healthy cops show up and feel they need tasers to keep control? So, in order to prevent him from hurting himself, they are gonna threaten him with tasers? Seems ironic. Seems to me to be a recipe for escalating things rather than calming them down? I was taught not to take out a gun unless you plan to use it.I would think same would go for a taser? MAYBE I could see ONE taser out......but 2 or 3? </p><p>I worked dementia unit for many years. We had no training to work there....I was not yet a nurse at that time......we were responsible for all personal care of 20 patients. Many of our patients had been farmers their whole life.....many were quite strong.......and a good majority of them coud easily become agitated and combative......partly becuz we neded to shower them and they would forget we were showering....and they would get angry, confused, offended, defensive, whatever......</p><p>We had no weapons. We did not use drugs. and we were not trained cops. Calmness, that helped. Low expressed emotion helped. Negotiation sometimes helped. Seems to me if I were suddenly confronted with a bunch of cops and a bunch of tasers, I myself might lose any logic I might have......and flip out, freak out.......whatever. </p><p></p><p>I have to wonder..some psychiatric medications affects different body systems.....etc.....um, like benzos can affect central nervous system....and stimulants can affect heart? and I know seroquel afected my difficult children blood pressure dramatically........and mental illness can be result of different brain pathologies etc.......and people can and do have illnesses etc that they just do not even know they have.....I think of teen athletes with heart issues that they were not aware of and then wham......duering some sport event it hits them. </p><p>Chicago had a highly publicized instance where a non violent mentally ill boy was tasered....and died......</p><p>I dunno........but...I sure hope my kids never get themself into a situation for us to learn anything about tasers first hand. Or guns. Or even nightsticks. Im so sorry your difficult child had that whole incident happen..........I find it very scary and sad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dreamer, post: 232542, member: 1697"] Im sitting here thinking about a teen boy who hs threatened to hurt HIMSELF......and a bunch of strong healthy cops show up and feel they need tasers to keep control? So, in order to prevent him from hurting himself, they are gonna threaten him with tasers? Seems ironic. Seems to me to be a recipe for escalating things rather than calming them down? I was taught not to take out a gun unless you plan to use it.I would think same would go for a taser? MAYBE I could see ONE taser out......but 2 or 3? I worked dementia unit for many years. We had no training to work there....I was not yet a nurse at that time......we were responsible for all personal care of 20 patients. Many of our patients had been farmers their whole life.....many were quite strong.......and a good majority of them coud easily become agitated and combative......partly becuz we neded to shower them and they would forget we were showering....and they would get angry, confused, offended, defensive, whatever...... We had no weapons. We did not use drugs. and we were not trained cops. Calmness, that helped. Low expressed emotion helped. Negotiation sometimes helped. Seems to me if I were suddenly confronted with a bunch of cops and a bunch of tasers, I myself might lose any logic I might have......and flip out, freak out.......whatever. I have to wonder..some psychiatric medications affects different body systems.....etc.....um, like benzos can affect central nervous system....and stimulants can affect heart? and I know seroquel afected my difficult children blood pressure dramatically........and mental illness can be result of different brain pathologies etc.......and people can and do have illnesses etc that they just do not even know they have.....I think of teen athletes with heart issues that they were not aware of and then wham......duering some sport event it hits them. Chicago had a highly publicized instance where a non violent mentally ill boy was tasered....and died...... I dunno........but...I sure hope my kids never get themself into a situation for us to learn anything about tasers first hand. Or guns. Or even nightsticks. Im so sorry your difficult child had that whole incident happen..........I find it very scary and sad. [/QUOTE]
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