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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 213912" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>Steely, </p><p> </p><p>I am so sorry your difficult child is in this state. It breaks my heart literally. When Dude was in his first real Residential Treatment Center (RTC) away from home he also tried to hang himself at age 10 with his shoe laces. They found him hanging in his make-shift box of a closet. They got to him in time and put him on something call LOS (Line of Sight) he'll be under surveillance for 48 or more hours. </p><p> </p><p>The second time was when the police came to arrest him. He swallowed a bottle of tylenol and got taken to ER by ambulance and had his stomach pumped. The doctor told us that he NEVER took the pills and this was a manipulation on his part. Um - okay - so he goes to the psychiatric ward for observation NOT the prison right? had to fight for that. (Morons) and I told them that suicide WAS prevalent in his biodads family - my x tried 10 times or more in our marriage, and his uncle shot himself in the head in the kitchen - left a note that said - DO NOT COME IN, I'm sorry - Call 911. </p><p> </p><p>The third time he fashioned his sheet in Department of Juvenile Justice into a makeshift rope. He figured out how to stack things in his room to tie it to a little piece of metal in his ceiling and jumped off his bed. There was no one around to save him - but his knots were not good and his weight pulled the sheet tight. When I called the prison - and TOLD his caseworker that he had tried to, but failed in killing himself - she told me that I was being "Skucked into his web of victimization." I nearly reached through the phone and choked HER. She put him on 72 hour surveillance and he had to sleep in a plastic boat in the hall of Department of Juvenile Justice for nearly a week - then moved him. </p><p> </p><p>My point in telling you all this is to let you know that you are not alone in your feelings OR your fears. Dude was on Zoloft when he tried his first attempt and we have NEVER allowed him back on. I tried it later for depression and had visions of HOW I was going to go about hanging myself. When DF sold our boat and the anchor and rope went with it? I was furious - and had NO idea outwardly why I got like that - but the rope was in my "thougths" what I would use and the anchor would get it up around the limb. After 2 months of being off Zoloft I was better - and got on Paxil CR. It was really a world of difference to me- now I take nothing and do breathing exercises and after 10 years of therapy plus EMDR therapy I really feel a lot better. Dude is despondent at times but NOT suicidal and he's on NO medications at this time (that I know of) I suspect he feels he is BiPolar (BP) (runs on biodads side) and fights depression every day. </p><p> </p><p>I think - If you FEEL that strongly about your son being on medication put it in writing, leaving out the emotion I feel, I need etc...and ask them to take him TO BASE - ZERO medications while he's there and see if that doesn't make a difference. It did with Dude - and I'm thankful for it. I know that his coping skills have improved greatly over the last year and that was due to me letting go - a lot - a lot more than I wanted. BUT I still reserve the right to keep a watchful eye on my son - I am afterall HIS ONLY Mom. </p><p> </p><p>hope somewhere in this mess you'll find some comfort - if for no other reason than knowing you are NOT alone. And that despite several attempts? Dude is still with us. </p><p> </p><p>Hugs </p><p>Star</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 213912, member: 4964"] Steely, I am so sorry your difficult child is in this state. It breaks my heart literally. When Dude was in his first real Residential Treatment Center (RTC) away from home he also tried to hang himself at age 10 with his shoe laces. They found him hanging in his make-shift box of a closet. They got to him in time and put him on something call LOS (Line of Sight) he'll be under surveillance for 48 or more hours. The second time was when the police came to arrest him. He swallowed a bottle of tylenol and got taken to ER by ambulance and had his stomach pumped. The doctor told us that he NEVER took the pills and this was a manipulation on his part. Um - okay - so he goes to the psychiatric ward for observation NOT the prison right? had to fight for that. (Morons) and I told them that suicide WAS prevalent in his biodads family - my x tried 10 times or more in our marriage, and his uncle shot himself in the head in the kitchen - left a note that said - DO NOT COME IN, I'm sorry - Call 911. The third time he fashioned his sheet in Department of Juvenile Justice into a makeshift rope. He figured out how to stack things in his room to tie it to a little piece of metal in his ceiling and jumped off his bed. There was no one around to save him - but his knots were not good and his weight pulled the sheet tight. When I called the prison - and TOLD his caseworker that he had tried to, but failed in killing himself - she told me that I was being "Skucked into his web of victimization." I nearly reached through the phone and choked HER. She put him on 72 hour surveillance and he had to sleep in a plastic boat in the hall of Department of Juvenile Justice for nearly a week - then moved him. My point in telling you all this is to let you know that you are not alone in your feelings OR your fears. Dude was on Zoloft when he tried his first attempt and we have NEVER allowed him back on. I tried it later for depression and had visions of HOW I was going to go about hanging myself. When DF sold our boat and the anchor and rope went with it? I was furious - and had NO idea outwardly why I got like that - but the rope was in my "thougths" what I would use and the anchor would get it up around the limb. After 2 months of being off Zoloft I was better - and got on Paxil CR. It was really a world of difference to me- now I take nothing and do breathing exercises and after 10 years of therapy plus EMDR therapy I really feel a lot better. Dude is despondent at times but NOT suicidal and he's on NO medications at this time (that I know of) I suspect he feels he is BiPolar (BP) (runs on biodads side) and fights depression every day. I think - If you FEEL that strongly about your son being on medication put it in writing, leaving out the emotion I feel, I need etc...and ask them to take him TO BASE - ZERO medications while he's there and see if that doesn't make a difference. It did with Dude - and I'm thankful for it. I know that his coping skills have improved greatly over the last year and that was due to me letting go - a lot - a lot more than I wanted. BUT I still reserve the right to keep a watchful eye on my son - I am afterall HIS ONLY Mom. hope somewhere in this mess you'll find some comfort - if for no other reason than knowing you are NOT alone. And that despite several attempts? Dude is still with us. Hugs Star [/QUOTE]
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