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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 310002" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>He kind of was/is. He was taken off medications and doesn't want to go back on, however, I think he would without too much fuss if deemed necessary. His therapist does appear to be keeping an eye on how he's doing, as well as his guidance counselor at school (who has more sense then all the CM's by the way). difficult child is supposed to request to see his psychiatrist if he feels "different", depressed, or whatever. He's supposed to go talk to his guidance counselor for supports if he's struggling at school. I did suggest to him in a letter I sent out today that he go talk to the guidance counselor and not quit this advanced program or spanish until talking to her and thinking about it for a few days first. I told him I would support his final decision though because I don't want him to feel pressured or that I would be disappointed in him. Really, he could take spanish in summer school and still stay on the advanced track. And, I noticed in his IEP that we can put in supports to help him with memorization work so I thinnk I'll call the guidance counselor about this. I have also written a letter to the therapist doing the IEE and asked him to help discern what is cause and what is effect.</p><p></p><p>But getting back to the immediate concern, I was going to wait until our next family session early next week to bring up difficult child seeing the psychiatrist. For one thing, I wanted to give things a little more time just to be certain that this wasn't just a bad day or week for him and I was hoping that the current therapist would see some of this on her own when she sees difficult child this week. I will say that this therapist stays on top of any slight suuggestion difficult child makes regarding starting back self-injurous behavior. Also, difficult child was upset Sun. because he said everyone is looking at him and watching him constantly since being taken off medications and he "can't take being treated like a guinea pig". He's not being treated any differently and staff has been very happy with him- I'm sure his write up on Sat. was not considered a big deal given how well he's been doing. But, I thought it might do difficult child and others there a little good to see some of these changes on their own before I rush in asking for psychiatrist involvement. I can almost see it coming based on difficult child's previous history but this time, I want others' back-up so the next sd and "CM" and so forth have more than just my word and private prof's word- which means nothing to people in the system. It would help curb the opinions of those who still want to insist that difficult child is just a behavior problem- I even got one comment today that this is probably just the honeymoon period wearing off. Well, I would agree if he had started fighting or bullying or being disrespectful, but this has not happened.</p><p></p><p>And, admittedly, I have a sstrong feeling that since this is a contracted psychiatrist who only sees these kids 15 mins at a time periodically to write scripts, if difficult child sees him, difficult child goes straight back on medications. This will be crushing to difficult child so I want him to have a little time to accept that he needs it, time for his therapist to try to handle it by using coping skills instead of medications and time for this sd to see for themselves that this kid changed on Oct. 1 or thereabouts. Plus, with the GAL's position that she is just going to back up whatever others' iin the system say about me- even though I'm the only one really advocating for difficult child, it will help to give these people a little space to figure some of this out on their own, I think. But I can tell you- I am brushing armour off and getting ready to rear my warrior mom head. LOL!</p><p></p><p>They can't say much about the IEE therapist- he used to work at a state psychiatric hospital here for the criminally insane who were violent and he has a masters in Special Education and a phd in psychiatric. He's licensed to do psychiatric and educational testing and is a clinical psychiatric as well. If he backs some of what I've been saying up, it should go a long way in getting more people on the same page.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 310002, member: 3699"] He kind of was/is. He was taken off medications and doesn't want to go back on, however, I think he would without too much fuss if deemed necessary. His therapist does appear to be keeping an eye on how he's doing, as well as his guidance counselor at school (who has more sense then all the CM's by the way). difficult child is supposed to request to see his psychiatrist if he feels "different", depressed, or whatever. He's supposed to go talk to his guidance counselor for supports if he's struggling at school. I did suggest to him in a letter I sent out today that he go talk to the guidance counselor and not quit this advanced program or spanish until talking to her and thinking about it for a few days first. I told him I would support his final decision though because I don't want him to feel pressured or that I would be disappointed in him. Really, he could take spanish in summer school and still stay on the advanced track. And, I noticed in his IEP that we can put in supports to help him with memorization work so I thinnk I'll call the guidance counselor about this. I have also written a letter to the therapist doing the IEE and asked him to help discern what is cause and what is effect. But getting back to the immediate concern, I was going to wait until our next family session early next week to bring up difficult child seeing the psychiatrist. For one thing, I wanted to give things a little more time just to be certain that this wasn't just a bad day or week for him and I was hoping that the current therapist would see some of this on her own when she sees difficult child this week. I will say that this therapist stays on top of any slight suuggestion difficult child makes regarding starting back self-injurous behavior. Also, difficult child was upset Sun. because he said everyone is looking at him and watching him constantly since being taken off medications and he "can't take being treated like a guinea pig". He's not being treated any differently and staff has been very happy with him- I'm sure his write up on Sat. was not considered a big deal given how well he's been doing. But, I thought it might do difficult child and others there a little good to see some of these changes on their own before I rush in asking for psychiatrist involvement. I can almost see it coming based on difficult child's previous history but this time, I want others' back-up so the next sd and "CM" and so forth have more than just my word and private prof's word- which means nothing to people in the system. It would help curb the opinions of those who still want to insist that difficult child is just a behavior problem- I even got one comment today that this is probably just the honeymoon period wearing off. Well, I would agree if he had started fighting or bullying or being disrespectful, but this has not happened. And, admittedly, I have a sstrong feeling that since this is a contracted psychiatrist who only sees these kids 15 mins at a time periodically to write scripts, if difficult child sees him, difficult child goes straight back on medications. This will be crushing to difficult child so I want him to have a little time to accept that he needs it, time for his therapist to try to handle it by using coping skills instead of medications and time for this sd to see for themselves that this kid changed on Oct. 1 or thereabouts. Plus, with the GAL's position that she is just going to back up whatever others' iin the system say about me- even though I'm the only one really advocating for difficult child, it will help to give these people a little space to figure some of this out on their own, I think. But I can tell you- I am brushing armour off and getting ready to rear my warrior mom head. LOL! They can't say much about the IEE therapist- he used to work at a state psychiatric hospital here for the criminally insane who were violent and he has a masters in Special Education and a phd in psychiatric. He's licensed to do psychiatric and educational testing and is a clinical psychiatric as well. If he backs some of what I've been saying up, it should go a long way in getting more people on the same page. [/QUOTE]
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