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<blockquote data-quote="AZ_SheilaC" data-source="post: 408491" data-attributes="member: 11220"><p>My son is almost 17. The behaviors began to a very slight degree about two and a half years ago. He was taking Strattera, I found the results fantastic. He (on the other hand) said it made him feel fuzzy headed and his stomach hurt. He refused to take it, saying I was trying to "drug" him. After the big blowouts from that I was like "forget this." I waited until HE asked, twice, to go into the doctors again because I'm not going to be accused of trying to drug anyone. This had to come from him. </p><p></p><p>This second visit, despite my reservations, his doctor prescribed Ritalin patches. My son says one doesn't do anything for him, two is better. Other than going by his word I don't see >anything< improved, in fact I see an erosion of his behavior on this drug big time. I mentioned that to his doctor both times, this second time before we left, while we were in his office and he did this "your son and I are pals" thing saying "this is what their decision was." I thought =as I did the first time he suggested it= -> "are you nuts? This kid will go off the walls with his aggression!" Which he has. But, who am I to argue with a licensed medical doctor. Maybe he knew something I did not. His physician is aware of the issues we are now having. </p><p></p><p>To answer the question has he had a full screen, no. As of Friday I spoke with my insurance (it was PM, so I had to wait until today) and they said to have a full workup with a psychiatrist done and to request to begin working with a case manager to see if he can be placed inpatient somewhere for the anti-social behaviors. So today I am going to see what is available to us. </p><p></p><p>My sons dad was not an alcoholic, nor was his father, but both had all the personality traits of the addict and abuser. Their family have significantly reduced empathy for others with severe intimacy/bonding issues. My father was an alcoholic and manic depressive. I was not raised around my father - my parents divorced when I was 1. My mother, however, was undiagnosed with extreme personality disorder. She was abused as a child and from what I saw her mental development was arrested at about age 7 from incest trauma. She became a nun, and has been in mandatory psychotherapy 2x a week for the past 25 odd years. While parenting me, however, she was a prescription drug addict and quite literally insane. I was emancipated at 16.</p><p></p><p>I have spent my life working ACOA/IA issues. I thought my life would be better now that I do not have an addict/abuser in it. This is why it is extremely upsetting to experience this stuff (albeit without the physical violence except last year until the police came out) with my own son! Much of what he's doing reminds me of my mother. I think that's why I totally freaked and couldn't recall my phone number at the store. This is a NIGHTMARE.</p><p></p><p>My son has more sensitivity then his father believe it or not in some ways. However, that is when he is in control of his behaviors. I have seen him act as if he's on speed when he is unmedicated. "Spastic," and it concerns me. I am so worried he will warp my daughter in her perceptions of "normal" by their interactions. I hope to God she does not think this is normal.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, just wanted to answer some questions. Thank you for being here to vent. This ebbs and flows usually. It is FAR worse with the introduction of Ritalin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AZ_SheilaC, post: 408491, member: 11220"] My son is almost 17. The behaviors began to a very slight degree about two and a half years ago. He was taking Strattera, I found the results fantastic. He (on the other hand) said it made him feel fuzzy headed and his stomach hurt. He refused to take it, saying I was trying to "drug" him. After the big blowouts from that I was like "forget this." I waited until HE asked, twice, to go into the doctors again because I'm not going to be accused of trying to drug anyone. This had to come from him. This second visit, despite my reservations, his doctor prescribed Ritalin patches. My son says one doesn't do anything for him, two is better. Other than going by his word I don't see >anything< improved, in fact I see an erosion of his behavior on this drug big time. I mentioned that to his doctor both times, this second time before we left, while we were in his office and he did this "your son and I are pals" thing saying "this is what their decision was." I thought =as I did the first time he suggested it= -> "are you nuts? This kid will go off the walls with his aggression!" Which he has. But, who am I to argue with a licensed medical doctor. Maybe he knew something I did not. His physician is aware of the issues we are now having. To answer the question has he had a full screen, no. As of Friday I spoke with my insurance (it was PM, so I had to wait until today) and they said to have a full workup with a psychiatrist done and to request to begin working with a case manager to see if he can be placed inpatient somewhere for the anti-social behaviors. So today I am going to see what is available to us. My sons dad was not an alcoholic, nor was his father, but both had all the personality traits of the addict and abuser. Their family have significantly reduced empathy for others with severe intimacy/bonding issues. My father was an alcoholic and manic depressive. I was not raised around my father - my parents divorced when I was 1. My mother, however, was undiagnosed with extreme personality disorder. She was abused as a child and from what I saw her mental development was arrested at about age 7 from incest trauma. She became a nun, and has been in mandatory psychotherapy 2x a week for the past 25 odd years. While parenting me, however, she was a prescription drug addict and quite literally insane. I was emancipated at 16. I have spent my life working ACOA/IA issues. I thought my life would be better now that I do not have an addict/abuser in it. This is why it is extremely upsetting to experience this stuff (albeit without the physical violence except last year until the police came out) with my own son! Much of what he's doing reminds me of my mother. I think that's why I totally freaked and couldn't recall my phone number at the store. This is a NIGHTMARE. My son has more sensitivity then his father believe it or not in some ways. However, that is when he is in control of his behaviors. I have seen him act as if he's on speed when he is unmedicated. "Spastic," and it concerns me. I am so worried he will warp my daughter in her perceptions of "normal" by their interactions. I hope to God she does not think this is normal. Anyway, just wanted to answer some questions. Thank you for being here to vent. This ebbs and flows usually. It is FAR worse with the introduction of Ritalin. [/QUOTE]
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