The therapist was pretty good. I've known her for a long time. Basically, she emphasized that hub and I have to be on the same page and that it is always a no-no for him to be disrespectful to my point of view in front of the k ids. I think he gets it. He really doesn't want me to leave. At 11am we are having a family meeting in which Jumper and Sonic will learn new rules. If either of them breaks a rule, including minor disrespect rules (Jumper needs a firm hand right now) they lose their most beloved possessions for twenty-four hours. For Sonic, that's his videogames, but he doesn't mouth off much and if I ask him to do something, he usually will. For Jumper: 1/No basketball practice or games if she has any outstanding homework. She has to finish it first. 2/24 hrs. off her cell phone (this will k ill her) if she disregards something I tell her to do. It's automatic and non-negotiable. She can also lose basketball privileges. She will also have to do chores, which she hates, such as washing the dishes (we have no dishwasher). Sonic has to do them too, although he already does do some. And hub has to back me up. Jumper is not a hard child to get to tow the line. But you have to stick to consequences. We'll see how it goes. Any other suggestions are welcome.