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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 386660" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Well to me the whole point is that they reneged on the agreement they made prior to me taking the job. I tried to make that clear before- it isn't that it is illegal or unreasonable how they do things, etc. It's about agreeing to handle things one way if I take the job then after moving here, deciding they are now not going to stick with that.</p><p></p><p>I'm still blowing so much steam over it that I'll probably get fired or whatever they nwant to call it but I brought it all to a head today because I finallly realized that it was pointless for me to be stressed out over something I simply cannot do and told them I couldn't do prior to taking the job- which is why I called and told them it would be difficult if even possible for me to make things work financially under they pay arrangement. That's my prerogative just like it was theirs to tell me they would do it a certain way in order to make things work.. Now that it's approaching time for me to get my first pay check, they decided they don't want to stick to that agreement.</p><p></p><p>I call that reneging on an agreement.</p><p></p><p>As far as travel, I was told all business travel is covered prior to taking the job. My boss knew I had no CC and that I;'d recently filed bankruptcy. I told him this because I told him if the company runs a credit check, I wanted him to know what had happened beforehand. Fine. Then after taking the job he says I have to have a CC to pay for things upfront that the sponsoring company won't pay for upfront. My boss does put all his on his CC and pays for it upfront- even trips to Euarope. I think he likes the points and frequent flyer miles. But when he told me that- prior to taking the job- was when I tiold him I was not in a financial position to do that. He said he understood and would make sure I was covered upfront except for meals. I said that would be fine.</p><p></p><p>I had to go to a project site today with this other guy that they just moved into this dept. So far I like him and we have some things in common. He was telling me that boss is kind of wierd, is moddy and fickle and jumps to conclusions that goes off on people about it, and doesn't think or plan ahead and that he also found out details after accepting the position that he should have been told beforehand. I think boss is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Apparently, the pay stuff and wjhat they expect employee's to pay is just this company';s way. It isn't typical though. They do it that way because they are contracted out and that works fine IF their employees are working for them on a contract basis, however we are not. We are hired as full time salary employees so yes, there are some different ecpectations and norms. Then of course, you have to add in the quirkiness of this boss on top of the company's way.</p><p></p><p>Anyway- I might get fired soon because I shot off an email to the HR person that wasn't nasty but was definitely to the point about me having made commitments based on the agreements made prior to me accepting the job and while I understand from my boss that they have now changed their minds about those agreements, I simply cannot afford to have my pay cut that much the next two paydays while still being expected to pay unexpected upfront costs that I wasn't informed about until I took the job.</p><p></p><p>No- I really don't think all this was my responsibility. I think I exerciised due diligence when I am the one who asked about whether or not they withold pay prior to taking the job, I called and emailed to tell them I mmight not be able to pursue this prior to takijng the job, I discussed it with them and they agreed to handle it a certain way then I confirmed that- all rpior to taking the job.</p><p></p><p>They reneged - plain and simple and I refuse to beat myself up or let my boss beat me up anymore about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 386660, member: 3699"] Well to me the whole point is that they reneged on the agreement they made prior to me taking the job. I tried to make that clear before- it isn't that it is illegal or unreasonable how they do things, etc. It's about agreeing to handle things one way if I take the job then after moving here, deciding they are now not going to stick with that. I'm still blowing so much steam over it that I'll probably get fired or whatever they nwant to call it but I brought it all to a head today because I finallly realized that it was pointless for me to be stressed out over something I simply cannot do and told them I couldn't do prior to taking the job- which is why I called and told them it would be difficult if even possible for me to make things work financially under they pay arrangement. That's my prerogative just like it was theirs to tell me they would do it a certain way in order to make things work.. Now that it's approaching time for me to get my first pay check, they decided they don't want to stick to that agreement. I call that reneging on an agreement. As far as travel, I was told all business travel is covered prior to taking the job. My boss knew I had no CC and that I;'d recently filed bankruptcy. I told him this because I told him if the company runs a credit check, I wanted him to know what had happened beforehand. Fine. Then after taking the job he says I have to have a CC to pay for things upfront that the sponsoring company won't pay for upfront. My boss does put all his on his CC and pays for it upfront- even trips to Euarope. I think he likes the points and frequent flyer miles. But when he told me that- prior to taking the job- was when I tiold him I was not in a financial position to do that. He said he understood and would make sure I was covered upfront except for meals. I said that would be fine. I had to go to a project site today with this other guy that they just moved into this dept. So far I like him and we have some things in common. He was telling me that boss is kind of wierd, is moddy and fickle and jumps to conclusions that goes off on people about it, and doesn't think or plan ahead and that he also found out details after accepting the position that he should have been told beforehand. I think boss is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Apparently, the pay stuff and wjhat they expect employee's to pay is just this company';s way. It isn't typical though. They do it that way because they are contracted out and that works fine IF their employees are working for them on a contract basis, however we are not. We are hired as full time salary employees so yes, there are some different ecpectations and norms. Then of course, you have to add in the quirkiness of this boss on top of the company's way. Anyway- I might get fired soon because I shot off an email to the HR person that wasn't nasty but was definitely to the point about me having made commitments based on the agreements made prior to me accepting the job and while I understand from my boss that they have now changed their minds about those agreements, I simply cannot afford to have my pay cut that much the next two paydays while still being expected to pay unexpected upfront costs that I wasn't informed about until I took the job. No- I really don't think all this was my responsibility. I think I exerciised due diligence when I am the one who asked about whether or not they withold pay prior to taking the job, I called and emailed to tell them I mmight not be able to pursue this prior to takijng the job, I discussed it with them and they agreed to handle it a certain way then I confirmed that- all rpior to taking the job. They reneged - plain and simple and I refuse to beat myself up or let my boss beat me up anymore about it. [/QUOTE]
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