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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 667748" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>This is controversial topic in my country. And in most I know about. Though worries around here are less about them overcoming us and more about certain type of criminality and cultural differences. Mostly about how women role in society is seen and sex crime. There is no denying it, immigrants from certain countries commit over 20 times more rapes than ethnic locals or immigrants from western countries.</p><p></p><p>People also question why 80 % of asylum seekers coming here are young men and as you asked, why they do not stay closer and in Muslim countries. Of course Saudi Arabia refuses to take refugees for their own reasons and in Turkey there are already so many that situation in camps starts to be unbearable.</p><p></p><p>We are in tough spot with our economy so that adds to the debate. Establishment has taken a strong view we have to do our part, Church has taken a strong stand reminded us that if we consider ourselves Christians, we are obliged to house and feed strangers coming to us. Church has also given lots of their premises to house refugees coming in, because we get as many asylum seekers a week we usually get in much longer time so all the places we usually lodge them are more than full.</p><p></p><p>It is in fact quite divided right now. There are lot of really loud people who feel we are giving our country away and then there are much bigger (but little less loud) group of people, who consider we have no right not to help. For example all the places that take clothes, toys etc. to give to asylum seekers are so full, that they can not take more.</p><p></p><p>Fulfilling your duty is very strong Lutheran legacy that is so deep in core of our culture, that for most it would be impossible to explain ourselves how we would have right to turn our backs to people in need.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I may need to explain a Church part little more. let's put it this way. We tend to be very secular people. We only go to Church for funerals, weddings and at Christmas, but we do have a strong Lutheran church with very wide membership. Every time we end up trouble, we still turn for Church for help and console. And when our archbishop tells us something, especially that we are in wrong and scolds us, few really dare to argue. Church usually doesn't get involved in politics in any way, mixing religion and politics is considered to be bad taste and Church teaches us that worldly things should be resolved with our reason and conscience and not involve religious arguments or Bible, but when it does remind us about something, we still sit down and listen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 667748, member: 14557"] This is controversial topic in my country. And in most I know about. Though worries around here are less about them overcoming us and more about certain type of criminality and cultural differences. Mostly about how women role in society is seen and sex crime. There is no denying it, immigrants from certain countries commit over 20 times more rapes than ethnic locals or immigrants from western countries. People also question why 80 % of asylum seekers coming here are young men and as you asked, why they do not stay closer and in Muslim countries. Of course Saudi Arabia refuses to take refugees for their own reasons and in Turkey there are already so many that situation in camps starts to be unbearable. We are in tough spot with our economy so that adds to the debate. Establishment has taken a strong view we have to do our part, Church has taken a strong stand reminded us that if we consider ourselves Christians, we are obliged to house and feed strangers coming to us. Church has also given lots of their premises to house refugees coming in, because we get as many asylum seekers a week we usually get in much longer time so all the places we usually lodge them are more than full. It is in fact quite divided right now. There are lot of really loud people who feel we are giving our country away and then there are much bigger (but little less loud) group of people, who consider we have no right not to help. For example all the places that take clothes, toys etc. to give to asylum seekers are so full, that they can not take more. Fulfilling your duty is very strong Lutheran legacy that is so deep in core of our culture, that for most it would be impossible to explain ourselves how we would have right to turn our backs to people in need. EDIT: I may need to explain a Church part little more. let's put it this way. We tend to be very secular people. We only go to Church for funerals, weddings and at Christmas, but we do have a strong Lutheran church with very wide membership. Every time we end up trouble, we still turn for Church for help and console. And when our archbishop tells us something, especially that we are in wrong and scolds us, few really dare to argue. Church usually doesn't get involved in politics in any way, mixing religion and politics is considered to be bad taste and Church teaches us that worldly things should be resolved with our reason and conscience and not involve religious arguments or Bible, but when it does remind us about something, we still sit down and listen. [/QUOTE]
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