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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 283794" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I mentionedbefore, we don't have the death penalty in Australia.</p><p></p><p>People we have in our maximum security prison for the worst of the worst (and remember, these people can at times talk to one another) -</p><p></p><p>Ivan Milat, the backpacker murderer. They believe he killed many more than we know about.</p><p></p><p>The Scaife brothers, whose horrific torture and rape of a number of girls has them getting the highest sentences for this considering their victims are alive. But their crimes were shocking.</p><p></p><p>The Murphy brothers. Not sure if they're in Goulburn like the others. They murdered Anita Cobby, very messily. She was a pretty nurse on her way home form work by train. They grabbed her, had their fun and then realised she shouldn't be allowed to live.</p><p></p><p>And many more.</p><p></p><p>I think the Scaife brothers will eventually be released, but not the others. Same goes for the guy who killed all those people at Port Arthur - he went hunting for people. Stalked them with his hunting gear and shot as many as he could. A public historic place on a public holiday, so it was crowded.</p><p></p><p>Then there's the bloke who grabbed a couple in the outback and tried to kill them both. The girl got away but her fiance has never been found. It's likely that it was not the bloke's first offence. Again, he will never be released. But while he lives there is always the chance he could tell people what he did with the body. Or bodies. Same with Ivan Milat - while he lives, he has the chance to tell people who he killed and where they are, so families can stop wondering about their missing loved ones.</p><p></p><p>But on the flip side, while they live they can still plan to escape. We keep hearing of Ivan Milat's latest foiled attempt, or the Scaife brothers with another smuggled mobile phone.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying the death penalty is wrong. I'm not saying it's right. Just talking about how it is, when there isn't one.</p><p></p><p>The last bloke hanged in Australia was Darcy Dugan. From what we now know about the case, he probably didn't deserve it because it was someone else who fired the shot that killed a prison guard, but ecause it was an escape attempt Dugan had organised, he was the fall guy. He WAS a hardened con, he kept robbing places and escaping from jail. But the only person killed in any of his activities was probably not from a shot he fired. If they hadn't hanged him, we might still have the death penalty.</p><p></p><p>Compared to a lot of people we have locked up in Aussie prisons - Darcy Dugan was a gentleman and a decent human being. We have worse people walking the streets.</p><p></p><p>THAT is scary!</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 283794, member: 1991"] I mentionedbefore, we don't have the death penalty in Australia. People we have in our maximum security prison for the worst of the worst (and remember, these people can at times talk to one another) - Ivan Milat, the backpacker murderer. They believe he killed many more than we know about. The Scaife brothers, whose horrific torture and rape of a number of girls has them getting the highest sentences for this considering their victims are alive. But their crimes were shocking. The Murphy brothers. Not sure if they're in Goulburn like the others. They murdered Anita Cobby, very messily. She was a pretty nurse on her way home form work by train. They grabbed her, had their fun and then realised she shouldn't be allowed to live. And many more. I think the Scaife brothers will eventually be released, but not the others. Same goes for the guy who killed all those people at Port Arthur - he went hunting for people. Stalked them with his hunting gear and shot as many as he could. A public historic place on a public holiday, so it was crowded. Then there's the bloke who grabbed a couple in the outback and tried to kill them both. The girl got away but her fiance has never been found. It's likely that it was not the bloke's first offence. Again, he will never be released. But while he lives there is always the chance he could tell people what he did with the body. Or bodies. Same with Ivan Milat - while he lives, he has the chance to tell people who he killed and where they are, so families can stop wondering about their missing loved ones. But on the flip side, while they live they can still plan to escape. We keep hearing of Ivan Milat's latest foiled attempt, or the Scaife brothers with another smuggled mobile phone. I'm not saying the death penalty is wrong. I'm not saying it's right. Just talking about how it is, when there isn't one. The last bloke hanged in Australia was Darcy Dugan. From what we now know about the case, he probably didn't deserve it because it was someone else who fired the shot that killed a prison guard, but ecause it was an escape attempt Dugan had organised, he was the fall guy. He WAS a hardened con, he kept robbing places and escaping from jail. But the only person killed in any of his activities was probably not from a shot he fired. If they hadn't hanged him, we might still have the death penalty. Compared to a lot of people we have locked up in Aussie prisons - Darcy Dugan was a gentleman and a decent human being. We have worse people walking the streets. THAT is scary! Marg [/QUOTE]
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