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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 189950" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Terry,</p><p> </p><p>I strongly recommend you read The Bipolar Child by Dmitri Papalous and his wife. It is an excellent book. I don't know if Dr. Pavuluri has a book out - Totoro is using her methods (I think the Dr. is a her), so she might know. Anyway, the Bipolar Child book is an excellent resource.</p><p> </p><p>I disagree with MWM on some things. Aspies DO have mood swings. My Aspie is NOT bipolar - and every doctor he has seen has said this. It was tossed around by a few but always ruled out. </p><p> </p><p>Aspies also have sleep issues. I have been to many aspie support groups and that is a problem many of the parents mentioned. It seems the aspie has too much to ponder or play with (even if there is nothing to play with in the room). Aspies also often become fixated or obsessed with something (first it was dinosaurs, then pokemon, now Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons) and wake up thinking about it in the middle of the night. Wiz takes a tricyclic antidepressant to help with this. Melatonin just didn't help much. </p><p> </p><p>Aspies also have mood swings. They are NOT the same as bipolar kids go through but they do happen. Aspies are also VERY hard on themselves.</p><p> </p><p>No matter what the docs/hospital/sw say - I strongly strongly do NOT recommend using a chip or point system that ties chores or behaviors to a reward. There have been several cases where an aspie will then want a reward for EVERYTHING. We went through it with Wiz and I also read a book about Aspies that an Aspie child in Ireland wrote. I am pretty sure it was Ireland - might have been England, it has been a number of years. Anyway, this child at age 16 refused to do anything with-o a reward. And the reward had to be BIG. He wouldn't even get out of bed with-o a reward. He was touted as a genius who would give the rest of the world instructions on dealing with aspies when he wrote the book (at a very early age). Several years later he was impossible to motivate - largely because he had learned that people would reward him if he finally gave in. and if he refused long enough he would get a bigger reward. Ia m not talking about candy bars as a reward, or even a book. He was insisting on a new video game to get out of bed one day - his mom said this on an interview. </p><p> </p><p>While many aspies don't use medications, jsut being aspie is nto a reason to stop medications that are helping. Wiz does very will on strattera, he also did well on concerta. And he really NEEDS something to help with the ADHD aspect of Aspbergers. </p><p> </p><p>If they think maybe bipolar, do they want to start medications? If they do - and bipolar is in question - then it is very wise to start with a mood stabilizer. Many other medications would keep mood stabilizers from working properly. The recommendation from the academy of psychiatrists is to first stabilize moods with one or two first line mood stabilizers. AFTER stabilization then other things can be addressed if needed. Often other problems disappear if the child is stable. Antipsychotics are usually next to handle rages and violence. Then medications forADHD and other things are added. I reallly DO wish we had known about this when we started Wiz on medications. But he was suicidal, so we needed the antidepressants on board bigtime. While he is not BiPolar (BP), it was in question for quite a while. With the mood stabilizers first we would have ruled out BiPolar (BP) much faster.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway, I am glad you have had this break and that difficult child is getting some more help and testing. I am glad you are having good visits with him, and that husband is more on board than he used to be. </p><p> </p><p>Sending hugs,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 189950, member: 1233"] Terry, I strongly recommend you read The Bipolar Child by Dmitri Papalous and his wife. It is an excellent book. I don't know if Dr. Pavuluri has a book out - Totoro is using her methods (I think the Dr. is a her), so she might know. Anyway, the Bipolar Child book is an excellent resource. I disagree with MWM on some things. Aspies DO have mood swings. My Aspie is NOT bipolar - and every doctor he has seen has said this. It was tossed around by a few but always ruled out. Aspies also have sleep issues. I have been to many aspie support groups and that is a problem many of the parents mentioned. It seems the aspie has too much to ponder or play with (even if there is nothing to play with in the room). Aspies also often become fixated or obsessed with something (first it was dinosaurs, then pokemon, now Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons) and wake up thinking about it in the middle of the night. Wiz takes a tricyclic antidepressant to help with this. Melatonin just didn't help much. Aspies also have mood swings. They are NOT the same as bipolar kids go through but they do happen. Aspies are also VERY hard on themselves. No matter what the docs/hospital/sw say - I strongly strongly do NOT recommend using a chip or point system that ties chores or behaviors to a reward. There have been several cases where an aspie will then want a reward for EVERYTHING. We went through it with Wiz and I also read a book about Aspies that an Aspie child in Ireland wrote. I am pretty sure it was Ireland - might have been England, it has been a number of years. Anyway, this child at age 16 refused to do anything with-o a reward. And the reward had to be BIG. He wouldn't even get out of bed with-o a reward. He was touted as a genius who would give the rest of the world instructions on dealing with aspies when he wrote the book (at a very early age). Several years later he was impossible to motivate - largely because he had learned that people would reward him if he finally gave in. and if he refused long enough he would get a bigger reward. Ia m not talking about candy bars as a reward, or even a book. He was insisting on a new video game to get out of bed one day - his mom said this on an interview. While many aspies don't use medications, jsut being aspie is nto a reason to stop medications that are helping. Wiz does very will on strattera, he also did well on concerta. And he really NEEDS something to help with the ADHD aspect of Aspbergers. If they think maybe bipolar, do they want to start medications? If they do - and bipolar is in question - then it is very wise to start with a mood stabilizer. Many other medications would keep mood stabilizers from working properly. The recommendation from the academy of psychiatrists is to first stabilize moods with one or two first line mood stabilizers. AFTER stabilization then other things can be addressed if needed. Often other problems disappear if the child is stable. Antipsychotics are usually next to handle rages and violence. Then medications forADHD and other things are added. I reallly DO wish we had known about this when we started Wiz on medications. But he was suicidal, so we needed the antidepressants on board bigtime. While he is not BiPolar (BP), it was in question for quite a while. With the mood stabilizers first we would have ruled out BiPolar (BP) much faster. Anyway, I am glad you have had this break and that difficult child is getting some more help and testing. I am glad you are having good visits with him, and that husband is more on board than he used to be. Sending hugs, [/QUOTE]
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