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<blockquote data-quote="dreamer" data-source="post: 134764" data-attributes="member: 1697"><p>I had problems with our district of non implemnting IEP, non appropriate personnel and staffing, non credentialed personnel.....among other issues. I filed for due process got a letter from state, was offered a mediation, - I accepted mediation BUT my school district refused mediation. </p><p></p><p>I landed in due process...it was ugly. VERY ugly. </p><p>Our hearing officer officially sided with school, but took me aside and said off record our school would continue to retaliate, continue to harrass, continue to be difficult, and it would/could be very harmful to my child and us. Off record she agreed with us 100% about everything brought up in due process, all our complaints. She hinted that even tho there are laws, the school has a long successful history of breaking or ignoreing those laws, and even if she were to order school to correct things, they would drag their feet, make everything miserable and would continue to find ways to harrass my child and possibly my other children- maybe under radar, maybe outside of traditional school issues etc. </p><p>Off the record she highly strongly encouraged me to remove my difficult child from school, which we did. </p><p>DO I resent it? you betchya. Am I bitter? without doubt. The only good thing to come of it is that my difficult child and the whole family has MUCH MUCH reduced stress, far less outbursts, meltdowns, rages, panic attacks, etc. ANd we found in the long run, our child learned so much much more so much more easily outside of traditional public school, it has been incrediible! </p><p></p><p>Now, that said, we went to due process BEFORE the more recent changes to IDEA, so we were under the older IDEA. </p><p></p><p>ANd in IL at that time, there was no appeal process for due process. </p><p>Also at that time, I had no lawyer with me, becuz I called over 50 lawyers who do due process, and not a single one would go against our sd. They listened to my s tory, said it sounded great, and they were raring to go- UNTIL they asked me what sd it was. And then they refused to take the case. </p><p>I also heard something like 80% of cases where the parent does not have a lawyer are lost, and found on side of sd. </p><p>FWIW, the hearing officer and the sd laywers all complimented me and said I was a remarkable adversary for them. They said I definetly made them earn their living in our hearing. </p><p></p><p>May I also say? The hearing officer herself did not honor any of the timeliness regarding how long till we have the hearing etc? - or how long until we get the determination? and I ordered copies of the transcripts of the hearing- and when they came, I was shocked and appalled to find out they did NOT match testimony given- very often they did not even come close to matching at all. </p><p>AT that point I became VERY cynical, and even more afraid. and I lost a lot of my faith in The System.</p><p></p><p>Let me also add, I spent hundreds of hoours studying case law, precedant, etc...at state websites, wrightslaw, law libraries, in conference with lawyers, advocates, neurologists, psychiatrists, NAMI, Special Education schools etc. And a note? my child was not violent, not aggressive, not dangerous to anyone, - we started due rocess becuz our sd wanted to remove our difficult child from our home, transfer her quite far away, residential, where the Residential Treatment Center (RTC) would also choose her docs etc...becuz they did not want to honor her "escape pass" mostly. </p><p>and retaliation continued on down to my son....7 years younger with no mental health diagnosis at all, but with cp and blindness in one eye. Retaliation to the degree of school harrassing him daily for "pink eye" accusing us of non medical care yet trying to call his doctor visits "truancy" even when they had docs notes about everything about his eye, and confirmation of every doctor appointment related to his eye (those were his only absences) and the school calling his inability to see a "willful misbheavior" ALL kinds of weird stuff. </p><p>No, our sd was NOT happy we took them to due process. and they could not be reasoned with or appeased until I took my son out of school, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dreamer, post: 134764, member: 1697"] I had problems with our district of non implemnting IEP, non appropriate personnel and staffing, non credentialed personnel.....among other issues. I filed for due process got a letter from state, was offered a mediation, - I accepted mediation BUT my school district refused mediation. I landed in due process...it was ugly. VERY ugly. Our hearing officer officially sided with school, but took me aside and said off record our school would continue to retaliate, continue to harrass, continue to be difficult, and it would/could be very harmful to my child and us. Off record she agreed with us 100% about everything brought up in due process, all our complaints. She hinted that even tho there are laws, the school has a long successful history of breaking or ignoreing those laws, and even if she were to order school to correct things, they would drag their feet, make everything miserable and would continue to find ways to harrass my child and possibly my other children- maybe under radar, maybe outside of traditional school issues etc. Off the record she highly strongly encouraged me to remove my difficult child from school, which we did. DO I resent it? you betchya. Am I bitter? without doubt. The only good thing to come of it is that my difficult child and the whole family has MUCH MUCH reduced stress, far less outbursts, meltdowns, rages, panic attacks, etc. ANd we found in the long run, our child learned so much much more so much more easily outside of traditional public school, it has been incrediible! Now, that said, we went to due process BEFORE the more recent changes to IDEA, so we were under the older IDEA. ANd in IL at that time, there was no appeal process for due process. Also at that time, I had no lawyer with me, becuz I called over 50 lawyers who do due process, and not a single one would go against our sd. They listened to my s tory, said it sounded great, and they were raring to go- UNTIL they asked me what sd it was. And then they refused to take the case. I also heard something like 80% of cases where the parent does not have a lawyer are lost, and found on side of sd. FWIW, the hearing officer and the sd laywers all complimented me and said I was a remarkable adversary for them. They said I definetly made them earn their living in our hearing. May I also say? The hearing officer herself did not honor any of the timeliness regarding how long till we have the hearing etc? - or how long until we get the determination? and I ordered copies of the transcripts of the hearing- and when they came, I was shocked and appalled to find out they did NOT match testimony given- very often they did not even come close to matching at all. AT that point I became VERY cynical, and even more afraid. and I lost a lot of my faith in The System. Let me also add, I spent hundreds of hoours studying case law, precedant, etc...at state websites, wrightslaw, law libraries, in conference with lawyers, advocates, neurologists, psychiatrists, NAMI, Special Education schools etc. And a note? my child was not violent, not aggressive, not dangerous to anyone, - we started due rocess becuz our sd wanted to remove our difficult child from our home, transfer her quite far away, residential, where the Residential Treatment Center (RTC) would also choose her docs etc...becuz they did not want to honor her "escape pass" mostly. and retaliation continued on down to my son....7 years younger with no mental health diagnosis at all, but with cp and blindness in one eye. Retaliation to the degree of school harrassing him daily for "pink eye" accusing us of non medical care yet trying to call his doctor visits "truancy" even when they had docs notes about everything about his eye, and confirmation of every doctor appointment related to his eye (those were his only absences) and the school calling his inability to see a "willful misbheavior" ALL kinds of weird stuff. No, our sd was NOT happy we took them to due process. and they could not be reasoned with or appeased until I took my son out of school, too. [/QUOTE]
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