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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 560897" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Be sure you let Jamie know that you would like to do one of whatever forms the dr gives you. Is there any chance he would do this with-o telling Billie beforehand? If at all possible, do one. Otherwise write aLL of this down and find out the name of the doctor that they use and mail the info to the doctor. the therapist/psychiatrist/whatever doctor cannot give you info but they CAN take info from you. I did once tell my mom to put her perspective of my kids on paper and I gave this to the therapist. I thought my mom was hugely out of line in her 'Wiiz is perfect and J is perfectly awful" perspective and I needed the therapist to see this with-o me just talking about it. We were living with my parents at the time and it was creating HUGE problems for my kids but we couldn't move out because husband was in grad school and my neck had just blown another vertebrae and my female parts were literally falling out so I needed two very expensive surgeries and help with the kids. The therapist was floored because my mother showed just how skewed her views were and this helped a LOT.</p><p></p><p>I am SURE that Billie would say that you totally don't see life on a daily basis, but Jamie is not stupid and he IS aware of mental illness and I am sure he is well aware that your insights could be instrumental in getting some help for the kids. I do think that play therapy would be excellent because they will certainly work with Billie and will get a good view of her issues and that can only help them all. Imagine how happy Jamie's marriage might be if Billie got the help she needed! That would be great for all concerned, in my opinion. </p><p></p><p>Encourage them to go to childrens, and get Tony to help Jamie see that even if Billie objects that this NEEDS to happen for his children to grow up and be healthy adults. </p><p></p><p>I am not at all surprised that school is calliing them, and I bet that Jamie only knows a fraction of the calls the teacher has made and the notes she has tried to send home. Let him know that he has to insist that the kids get what they need no matter hwat that is or how much Billie objects. Get the docs' names from him and send info directly to the docs rather than having Jamie take it to them. Unless they have the info they cannot help the family or the child. No way will Billie tell Jamie how bad it is, because she likely is setting it up to look like the teacher is out to get Haillie and Haillie is the 'injured' party. That way Billie doesn't have to take any responsibility. </p><p></p><p>Also, the constant touching is probably a huge issue at school. Many teachers do not have a CLUE how to handle a child who does that. I would be very surprised if Haillie hasn't done something already that is inappropriate at school, and they may start wondering if she has been abused because so very many people don't understand that this can be a symptom of childhood bipolar and other problems and that it is not always a sign that the child has been sexually abused. most people think that only sexual abuse would have a child that interested in that part of their anatomy. they are wrong, but it is really HARD to protect yourself from their accusations. Jamie has to be super careful with this because it would cost him his job to be investigated for that. That is one reason that he very much NEEDS to get a full evaluation on his kids. If nothing else, maybe that would be a reason that he could give to Billie to get the evaluation's done.</p><p></p><p>I do think a children's hospital would be the best place to find resources.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 560897, member: 1233"] Be sure you let Jamie know that you would like to do one of whatever forms the dr gives you. Is there any chance he would do this with-o telling Billie beforehand? If at all possible, do one. Otherwise write aLL of this down and find out the name of the doctor that they use and mail the info to the doctor. the therapist/psychiatrist/whatever doctor cannot give you info but they CAN take info from you. I did once tell my mom to put her perspective of my kids on paper and I gave this to the therapist. I thought my mom was hugely out of line in her 'Wiiz is perfect and J is perfectly awful" perspective and I needed the therapist to see this with-o me just talking about it. We were living with my parents at the time and it was creating HUGE problems for my kids but we couldn't move out because husband was in grad school and my neck had just blown another vertebrae and my female parts were literally falling out so I needed two very expensive surgeries and help with the kids. The therapist was floored because my mother showed just how skewed her views were and this helped a LOT. I am SURE that Billie would say that you totally don't see life on a daily basis, but Jamie is not stupid and he IS aware of mental illness and I am sure he is well aware that your insights could be instrumental in getting some help for the kids. I do think that play therapy would be excellent because they will certainly work with Billie and will get a good view of her issues and that can only help them all. Imagine how happy Jamie's marriage might be if Billie got the help she needed! That would be great for all concerned, in my opinion. Encourage them to go to childrens, and get Tony to help Jamie see that even if Billie objects that this NEEDS to happen for his children to grow up and be healthy adults. I am not at all surprised that school is calliing them, and I bet that Jamie only knows a fraction of the calls the teacher has made and the notes she has tried to send home. Let him know that he has to insist that the kids get what they need no matter hwat that is or how much Billie objects. Get the docs' names from him and send info directly to the docs rather than having Jamie take it to them. Unless they have the info they cannot help the family or the child. No way will Billie tell Jamie how bad it is, because she likely is setting it up to look like the teacher is out to get Haillie and Haillie is the 'injured' party. That way Billie doesn't have to take any responsibility. Also, the constant touching is probably a huge issue at school. Many teachers do not have a CLUE how to handle a child who does that. I would be very surprised if Haillie hasn't done something already that is inappropriate at school, and they may start wondering if she has been abused because so very many people don't understand that this can be a symptom of childhood bipolar and other problems and that it is not always a sign that the child has been sexually abused. most people think that only sexual abuse would have a child that interested in that part of their anatomy. they are wrong, but it is really HARD to protect yourself from their accusations. Jamie has to be super careful with this because it would cost him his job to be investigated for that. That is one reason that he very much NEEDS to get a full evaluation on his kids. If nothing else, maybe that would be a reason that he could give to Billie to get the evaluation's done. I do think a children's hospital would be the best place to find resources. [/QUOTE]
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