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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 370736" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>It sounds like good stuff, but not if you are already struggling to pay for the basics. What would happen if you cut it with a little bit of regular shampoo?</p><p></p><p>There have been products that I couldn't afford but could find the most beneficial ingredients and combine them to make something I could afford. One of the ingredients in WEN Sweet almond mint cleansing conditioner is Behentrimonium Methosulfate, or bmsulfate. It is derived from rapeseed oil (aka canola oil). I found a blog about this because it was mentioned as being great for curly hair conditioning. The article mentioned other products that contain it (Generic Paul Mitchell The Detangler, TIGI Moisture Maniac, Jessicurl Weekly Deep Treatment, and blended Beauty's Curl Quenching Conditioner). It also mentions a cheaper cousin of bmsulfate, bc sulfate. I don't know what the C stands for. The bc sulfate is in Herbal Essence hello Hydration, and DevaCare One Condition. All of the products I mentioned are conditioners.</p><p></p><p>Or you could buy BM Sulfate by itself and work up your own cleansing conditioner.</p><p></p><p>It probably would be an outlay to buy the ingredients you would want to try to create your own, but you would end up with MUCH more than the teeny amount sold by WEN. The WEN website does list all the ingredients and if you search for each of them you can figure out which ones you want to try and which you don't. One of the benefits of using the BM Sulfate is that it will thicken and emulsify other ingredients. Emulsify means keeping oil and water mixed together, like the shaking does when your italian dressing separates. </p><p></p><p>There are a LOT of products I decode this way and figure out how to make for my family. Jessie has very sensitive skin and especially right now I want to keep the chemicals she puts on her skin to a minimum. I don't know that any of them would affect her movement disorder but if I can eliminate them it seems wise. She is having an AWFUL time with acne and exzema right now. Most eczema treatments OTC have camphor in them and several of us have developed allergies from repeated use of it, so I don't want to use it on her. I mix up a little bit of emu oil, tea tree oil, pumpkin seed oil and vitamin E. I originally intended to put shea butter in it but mine went a bit rancid so I left it out until I can get some more. Each of the ingredients has beneficial properties including antibiotic, antifungal, anti-inflammatory,etc.. and they are doing an incredible job with her eczema - especially on her face. I make a cream for my psoriasis that is awesome AND is great for treating wrinkles (my aunt swears by it and won't use anything else).</p><p></p><p>Just remember if you mix up your own that it will likely NEED some sort of preservative unless you want to mix it up every few days. The site with the BMSulfate should have several preservatives to choose from.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry you have so many problems with your scalp. Mine is always very itchy - and NO it is NOT LICE!! It has always been very very itchy. Have you ever had a doctor look at your scalp to make sure it is healthy? If there is a lot of buildup you could have psoriasis or another medical condition causing that unpleasant feeling you describe. </p><p></p><p>If you need help tracking down ingredients let me know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 370736, member: 1233"] It sounds like good stuff, but not if you are already struggling to pay for the basics. What would happen if you cut it with a little bit of regular shampoo? There have been products that I couldn't afford but could find the most beneficial ingredients and combine them to make something I could afford. One of the ingredients in WEN Sweet almond mint cleansing conditioner is Behentrimonium Methosulfate, or bmsulfate. It is derived from rapeseed oil (aka canola oil). I found a blog about this because it was mentioned as being great for curly hair conditioning. The article mentioned other products that contain it (Generic Paul Mitchell The Detangler, TIGI Moisture Maniac, Jessicurl Weekly Deep Treatment, and blended Beauty's Curl Quenching Conditioner). It also mentions a cheaper cousin of bmsulfate, bc sulfate. I don't know what the C stands for. The bc sulfate is in Herbal Essence hello Hydration, and DevaCare One Condition. All of the products I mentioned are conditioners. Or you could buy BM Sulfate by itself and work up your own cleansing conditioner. It probably would be an outlay to buy the ingredients you would want to try to create your own, but you would end up with MUCH more than the teeny amount sold by WEN. The WEN website does list all the ingredients and if you search for each of them you can figure out which ones you want to try and which you don't. One of the benefits of using the BM Sulfate is that it will thicken and emulsify other ingredients. Emulsify means keeping oil and water mixed together, like the shaking does when your italian dressing separates. There are a LOT of products I decode this way and figure out how to make for my family. Jessie has very sensitive skin and especially right now I want to keep the chemicals she puts on her skin to a minimum. I don't know that any of them would affect her movement disorder but if I can eliminate them it seems wise. She is having an AWFUL time with acne and exzema right now. Most eczema treatments OTC have camphor in them and several of us have developed allergies from repeated use of it, so I don't want to use it on her. I mix up a little bit of emu oil, tea tree oil, pumpkin seed oil and vitamin E. I originally intended to put shea butter in it but mine went a bit rancid so I left it out until I can get some more. Each of the ingredients has beneficial properties including antibiotic, antifungal, anti-inflammatory,etc.. and they are doing an incredible job with her eczema - especially on her face. I make a cream for my psoriasis that is awesome AND is great for treating wrinkles (my aunt swears by it and won't use anything else). Just remember if you mix up your own that it will likely NEED some sort of preservative unless you want to mix it up every few days. The site with the BMSulfate should have several preservatives to choose from. I am sorry you have so many problems with your scalp. Mine is always very itchy - and NO it is NOT LICE!! It has always been very very itchy. Have you ever had a doctor look at your scalp to make sure it is healthy? If there is a lot of buildup you could have psoriasis or another medical condition causing that unpleasant feeling you describe. If you need help tracking down ingredients let me know. [/QUOTE]
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