"We've thrown common sense out the window"

SRL

Active Member
I understand fully about the balloons and the badly behaved parents ruining graduation for other families. It's the punishing the kids for the actions of their relatives which they obviously have no control over that I take issue with. If security would escort out the first set of parents that acted out I think it would be a more fitting consequence.
 

Kathy813

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Staff member
SRL,

Our graduation is held in the county civic center (which is huge) since our graduating class is so large. There is no way that there could be enough security at hand for every set of parents that start screaming, hooping, hollering and blowing horns when their child's name is called. Also, in a large facility like ours, removing one set of rambunctious parents would not be the answer since the people on the other side of the facility wouldn't even know what had happened.

And if the parents refused to leave, what then? A scuffle in the stands? Arrests? The graduation ceremony would be ruined.

I agree that it is sad that the children were punished for the actions of the adults. by the way, I believe that the students did eventually receive their diplomas.

My question, though, is where is the common sense of the parents when it comes to deliberately flaunting the rules and ruining the ceremony for their child and other people's children. I think it is those parents that should be held up to ridicule ~ not the school system trying to provide a memorable, dignified ceremony for all of their students.

I bet the next year's ceremony was much quieter.

~Kathy
 
I'm with SRL: don't punish the student for the relatives' lack of consideration. So it's a large venue. Doesn't matter. Announce it beforehand, and at the first hint of a disruption, halt the ceremony and announce on the PA that the ceremony will resume after the troublemakers have been ejected. The whole audience's attention will be focused on the miscreants. You can bet that everyone else will get the message. Two benefits: it addresses the problem at this year's ceremony instead of only being a deterrent for next year's, and it doesn't punish someone who did nothing wrong in the process.

Just as rude in my opinion are the people who leave after their kid walks across the stage. I had a good friend who graduated summa :censored2: laude. Her last name began with "W". The graduates were called alphabetically, and there were several hundred. When her big moment came the civic center was three-fourths empty. Grads in the early part of the alphabet received standing o's when they were called with a summa or a magna. Peggy got a smattering of applause. She worked as hard as any kid in the As and Bs. Her family had to endure all the earlier families getting up and squeezing out past them.

Now, what about the point of this thread? Again: the tendency, of which the flower story is illustrative, of administrators and bureaucrats in far too many cases to attempt to deal with problems by mindlessly enforcing some well-intentioned but ill-thought-out policy, to the point it becomes a reductio ad absurdum featured in a rant like my opening post?

To put it another way: the purpose of a rule or policy is, or ought to be, to achieve some purpose, not to be an end in itself. The purpose of that photo policy was to prevent inappropriate images. The purpose was lost sight of in the application to a completely harmless, in no way inappropriate image. In a nutshell, as the photog said, they threw common sense out the window.
 

Kathy813

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Staff member
What do you think stopping the ceremony when the child's family is being rude and obnoxious and pointing it out to 5000 people would do? I think the kid would want to die on the spot. Talk about punishing a child for the parents' behavior.

in my opinion, it comes back to blaming the organization for trying to deal with the lack of common sense of the participants.

The bigger problem is that people today seem to think that rules are for other people. I saw a parent today ignore the designated student drop off line and pull in front of the bus lane and teacher parking lot instead. She tied up traffic in both directions. She didn't think she should have to wait in line like everybody else. I recognized the kid that got out of the car and it was a student who doesn't like to follow the rules, either.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

~Kathy
 
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