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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 548109" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>You know what? For all the times I watched the Casey Anthony stuff on tv? I never heard or maybe I don't remember about Borderline (BPD) being mentioned. MAYBE because when you get to look at stuff from the top of a mountain (so to speak from a mental illness point of view) I tend to be very "OMG here we go again" with things and instead of making me angry it's being said? It makes me sigh because of how STUPI.....t....yes that is a t.....stupit people are behaving that are "SUPPOSEDLY" not mentally ill. </p><p></p><p>For example - Ten years ago - we got hooked up with the States "DREAM TEAM" for mental health help. I think Daisyface may have the same Shriners Clowns, just a different car. It was heralded as the PREMIER go to establishment for the most severely disturbed children in the state. MIND YOU - this is TEN years of life experience, and doctors, and pills, and THIS board....prior to today. So we're sitting there, in the office and they sent us a man who told my son FIRST VISIT - YOU WILL...blah blah blah, (UM.....have you read NO books on effective communication?) Then same man admits to me - hes done on the third visit - but if I don't keep having him to the house? I will loose my foot in the door for further assistance - that's how the game is played. I keep him entertained for an hour.....HE makes out a report that Dude is INCORRIGIBLE and like a layered chess board - we move to the upper level of supposed care. (PFT even bigger joke was the staff psychiatrist) My questions to her that I was asked HERE on THIS board - over TEN years ago went kinda like WHA? HUH? YOU WANT TO KNOW WHUT? She wasn't a deer in the headlights - she was like weasle sucked a jet engine at 20k feet - NO idea what she was doing there, but it was interesting to see how she was going to get herself out of flying fan and into the mire. I believe my pet name for her was Babbonskiester. (think harsher....think harsher) </p><p></p><p>So through it all I asked Dude if ANY of the help he received did ANY good. NOPE. But he went because quite frankly we HAD to have a break from the misery and anxiety - and get our batteries recharged to deal with him when they WOULD send him home. What did help? Therapy. Did he like that? H no. HATED IT - but guess what he wants now? WOuld love to have ? Therapy. He thinks he's BiPolar (BP). - Okay have no idea what makes you think that - or what bedside jail bird is diagnosis you with this - but if that's what yu think? When you get out? Make it a priority......OR plan a lifetime of living like you do now....and GOSH I bet you just LOVE IT THERE?? Don't you....LOVE IT? I'm not the sugar coat fairy I once was......I'm more like salt in an open wound fairy......</p><p></p><p>Point is - PEOPLE that KNOW these things - are ANNOYED by people that DO NOT. I don't see you as anything but the loving friend I know.......could you go koo koo bananas and assault your television? (shrug hmmmm ) Guess so - but in the end - you restrain yourself, because you realize YOU HAVE A CHOICE. What I'm talking about with the kid in Aurora is that I believe he KNEW what he was doing when he did it. There's too much of NO disconnect - between ------Im here, I'm in the theater....crime is committed....OH here I am. Ut oh - now I'm nuts.....Did he have a temporary lapse in judgement? ABSOLUTELY - but do I think it's been a life time of what YOU and ME and CORY and DUDE have .....LITERALLY suffered through? Not to menion (Golly how many members here?) NO. If it had been? I think there would have been signs his recent doctor would have said - UT OH.....and yet nothing. Even with the most mild cased schizophrenic...there are signs, behaviors. From what I know this man went from 0-14 in just a few days. That's the part I have problem with - and if he HAS or HAD been mentally ill, or was working up to being a full blown schizophrenic, or heck even if he TRULY is a schizophrenic - I would be interested to know - HOW MANY serial killers, or mass murderers had inclings of being schizo - and then in a short time - took so many lives .....? That I think is what it would take to convince me that THIS man is schizophrenic. And as far as borderline? NO WAY - nope. There would have to be SO MUCH MORE in his hx that SURELY SURELY would have been documented by schools, teachers, friends.....and it is NOT THERE. The evidence is NOT THERE to substantiate a lifetime or a short time mental illness. A breakdown yes//// but I dont' see him getting off. I'm not sure anyone will advocate for death penalty - and if they do it will be appealed for years and years - and YEARS......there are 14 (technically15 ) victims dead.....and like I said - I doubt they're all going to get together and say they forgive him. Never happen. </p><p></p><p>I'll agree this - his mind did snap - but I don't think it's froma lifetime of mental illness - and if his parents knew he was like this? They'd be in a generation that would have sought answers not hid it - and to my knowledge? They're not saying he was. Everything I've heard pegs him as normal up until.....if you've got other info - let me know - but so far I think he just did what he did and that was that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 548109, member: 4964"] You know what? For all the times I watched the Casey Anthony stuff on tv? I never heard or maybe I don't remember about Borderline (BPD) being mentioned. MAYBE because when you get to look at stuff from the top of a mountain (so to speak from a mental illness point of view) I tend to be very "OMG here we go again" with things and instead of making me angry it's being said? It makes me sigh because of how STUPI.....t....yes that is a t.....stupit people are behaving that are "SUPPOSEDLY" not mentally ill. For example - Ten years ago - we got hooked up with the States "DREAM TEAM" for mental health help. I think Daisyface may have the same Shriners Clowns, just a different car. It was heralded as the PREMIER go to establishment for the most severely disturbed children in the state. MIND YOU - this is TEN years of life experience, and doctors, and pills, and THIS board....prior to today. So we're sitting there, in the office and they sent us a man who told my son FIRST VISIT - YOU WILL...blah blah blah, (UM.....have you read NO books on effective communication?) Then same man admits to me - hes done on the third visit - but if I don't keep having him to the house? I will loose my foot in the door for further assistance - that's how the game is played. I keep him entertained for an hour.....HE makes out a report that Dude is INCORRIGIBLE and like a layered chess board - we move to the upper level of supposed care. (PFT even bigger joke was the staff psychiatrist) My questions to her that I was asked HERE on THIS board - over TEN years ago went kinda like WHA? HUH? YOU WANT TO KNOW WHUT? She wasn't a deer in the headlights - she was like weasle sucked a jet engine at 20k feet - NO idea what she was doing there, but it was interesting to see how she was going to get herself out of flying fan and into the mire. I believe my pet name for her was Babbonskiester. (think harsher....think harsher) So through it all I asked Dude if ANY of the help he received did ANY good. NOPE. But he went because quite frankly we HAD to have a break from the misery and anxiety - and get our batteries recharged to deal with him when they WOULD send him home. What did help? Therapy. Did he like that? H no. HATED IT - but guess what he wants now? WOuld love to have ? Therapy. He thinks he's BiPolar (BP). - Okay have no idea what makes you think that - or what bedside jail bird is diagnosis you with this - but if that's what yu think? When you get out? Make it a priority......OR plan a lifetime of living like you do now....and GOSH I bet you just LOVE IT THERE?? Don't you....LOVE IT? I'm not the sugar coat fairy I once was......I'm more like salt in an open wound fairy...... Point is - PEOPLE that KNOW these things - are ANNOYED by people that DO NOT. I don't see you as anything but the loving friend I know.......could you go koo koo bananas and assault your television? (shrug hmmmm ) Guess so - but in the end - you restrain yourself, because you realize YOU HAVE A CHOICE. What I'm talking about with the kid in Aurora is that I believe he KNEW what he was doing when he did it. There's too much of NO disconnect - between ------Im here, I'm in the theater....crime is committed....OH here I am. Ut oh - now I'm nuts.....Did he have a temporary lapse in judgement? ABSOLUTELY - but do I think it's been a life time of what YOU and ME and CORY and DUDE have .....LITERALLY suffered through? Not to menion (Golly how many members here?) NO. If it had been? I think there would have been signs his recent doctor would have said - UT OH.....and yet nothing. Even with the most mild cased schizophrenic...there are signs, behaviors. From what I know this man went from 0-14 in just a few days. That's the part I have problem with - and if he HAS or HAD been mentally ill, or was working up to being a full blown schizophrenic, or heck even if he TRULY is a schizophrenic - I would be interested to know - HOW MANY serial killers, or mass murderers had inclings of being schizo - and then in a short time - took so many lives .....? That I think is what it would take to convince me that THIS man is schizophrenic. And as far as borderline? NO WAY - nope. There would have to be SO MUCH MORE in his hx that SURELY SURELY would have been documented by schools, teachers, friends.....and it is NOT THERE. The evidence is NOT THERE to substantiate a lifetime or a short time mental illness. A breakdown yes//// but I dont' see him getting off. I'm not sure anyone will advocate for death penalty - and if they do it will be appealed for years and years - and YEARS......there are 14 (technically15 ) victims dead.....and like I said - I doubt they're all going to get together and say they forgive him. Never happen. I'll agree this - his mind did snap - but I don't think it's froma lifetime of mental illness - and if his parents knew he was like this? They'd be in a generation that would have sought answers not hid it - and to my knowledge? They're not saying he was. Everything I've heard pegs him as normal up until.....if you've got other info - let me know - but so far I think he just did what he did and that was that. [/QUOTE]
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