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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 467574" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>That would bug me too. Why would she have the kid be in line if she was still shopping? Makes NO sense. Unless the lines take half an hour or something. Even then, why not keep the kid with you and wait until the line is gone? No goodwill or thrift store here is that busy all day. The lines are not usually more than 4 people at the busiest times and it isn't a steady flow. This is true in both OKC and Tulsa, both of which have more than 2x the people of Fayetteville. I looked it up because I wondered if it would be because there were so many more people in the area, but that isn't it at all.</p><p></p><p>Do these people not worry that someone will take their kids? What is wrong with them? In this day and age, how is it that they can be sure their kids are not taken, or abused while they are in the store? My entire family thought I had lost my mind when I still insisted that Wiz could not go into a men's room at age 8 or 9. We lived in Cincinnati and within ten miles of our home there were 9 episodes of kids being molested in store bathrooms while mom was outside or shopping in the store - in 6 months!! Reports of that were so very NOT uncommon that there was NO way that my kids were going into ANY restroom alone. A year after Jess was bornmy folks drove up to see us and my dad actually kept a log of what stores/restaurants/gas stations had places he could change a diaper or take J into the restroom with him and have her stay in a stall and not see anything. He wanted to be able to take her back to OK with-o my mom with him just in case there was an emergency of some kind. It was NOT a long list, and overall Cracker Barrel was the best at having places for men traveling with small children to tend to them. There was NEVER any question that he would let a 7 or 8yo go into the men's room alone, and even then he wouldn't be in any other area but right outside. Even when he took the kids somewhere when they visited he waited to use the bathroom until she came out so he knew that she wasn't in there hurting or needing help. He also would have an employee watch them if he had to use the restroom. I didn't expect that but his little bro was sending him copies of the articles that we were reading.</p><p></p><p>A friend of mine's husband worked as a parole officer when they lived in Hawaii and he had a LOT of sex offenders to monitor. One day a discount store mgr came in with a videotape. It showed a nice looking mom with four or five kids all walking in a line behind her. they were all behaving but as they walked past a circular clothes rack a head came out and an arm went around the littlest girl in the back of the line and pulled her under the rack. Two minutes later she comes out crying and her dress is all messed up and her underwear wasn't pulled up. Store security didn't catch it until later and managed to identify the mom by tracking her to the register later. They caught the man on tape and it came to my friend's husband's office because they wanted him to violate the man's probation because it would take too long to get warrants to arrest him. TWO MINUTES. That was all it took to change the rest of the girl's life. the man did go back to jail and new charges meant he stayed a long time. My friend's husband had to find a new line of work because it was just too hard to deal with all of what he saw. </p><p></p><p>Why do these parents not even think of this? I know a lot of people thought I was over-protective, but the kids you are talking about are so young and defenseless that they are just prey to any predator's whim. It makes me sick. by the way, that chain of discount stores stopped using circular racks because this incident and a couple of similar ones in various locations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 467574, member: 1233"] That would bug me too. Why would she have the kid be in line if she was still shopping? Makes NO sense. Unless the lines take half an hour or something. Even then, why not keep the kid with you and wait until the line is gone? No goodwill or thrift store here is that busy all day. The lines are not usually more than 4 people at the busiest times and it isn't a steady flow. This is true in both OKC and Tulsa, both of which have more than 2x the people of Fayetteville. I looked it up because I wondered if it would be because there were so many more people in the area, but that isn't it at all. Do these people not worry that someone will take their kids? What is wrong with them? In this day and age, how is it that they can be sure their kids are not taken, or abused while they are in the store? My entire family thought I had lost my mind when I still insisted that Wiz could not go into a men's room at age 8 or 9. We lived in Cincinnati and within ten miles of our home there were 9 episodes of kids being molested in store bathrooms while mom was outside or shopping in the store - in 6 months!! Reports of that were so very NOT uncommon that there was NO way that my kids were going into ANY restroom alone. A year after Jess was bornmy folks drove up to see us and my dad actually kept a log of what stores/restaurants/gas stations had places he could change a diaper or take J into the restroom with him and have her stay in a stall and not see anything. He wanted to be able to take her back to OK with-o my mom with him just in case there was an emergency of some kind. It was NOT a long list, and overall Cracker Barrel was the best at having places for men traveling with small children to tend to them. There was NEVER any question that he would let a 7 or 8yo go into the men's room alone, and even then he wouldn't be in any other area but right outside. Even when he took the kids somewhere when they visited he waited to use the bathroom until she came out so he knew that she wasn't in there hurting or needing help. He also would have an employee watch them if he had to use the restroom. I didn't expect that but his little bro was sending him copies of the articles that we were reading. A friend of mine's husband worked as a parole officer when they lived in Hawaii and he had a LOT of sex offenders to monitor. One day a discount store mgr came in with a videotape. It showed a nice looking mom with four or five kids all walking in a line behind her. they were all behaving but as they walked past a circular clothes rack a head came out and an arm went around the littlest girl in the back of the line and pulled her under the rack. Two minutes later she comes out crying and her dress is all messed up and her underwear wasn't pulled up. Store security didn't catch it until later and managed to identify the mom by tracking her to the register later. They caught the man on tape and it came to my friend's husband's office because they wanted him to violate the man's probation because it would take too long to get warrants to arrest him. TWO MINUTES. That was all it took to change the rest of the girl's life. the man did go back to jail and new charges meant he stayed a long time. My friend's husband had to find a new line of work because it was just too hard to deal with all of what he saw. Why do these parents not even think of this? I know a lot of people thought I was over-protective, but the kids you are talking about are so young and defenseless that they are just prey to any predator's whim. It makes me sick. by the way, that chain of discount stores stopped using circular racks because this incident and a couple of similar ones in various locations. [/QUOTE]
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