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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 458676" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>There's two sides to the story - at least. We'll see how many sides come out of this...</p><p>And in my opinion, this teacher's attitude is part of the problem. BUT only part of it.</p><p></p><p>There are problem parents. Ones with neurotypical kids who are spoiled brats. They DO exist. Or ones where the parent is not quite stable, and reacts to everything inappropriately. And yes, these kinds of situations are a major problem for school systems. No question.</p><p>But there are also problem teachers - and ineffective ones - and ones who are too green to know what they are doing... </p><p></p><p>And then there are the kids who have very real problems, but the kids of problems that are either difficult to get a diagnosis for, or for which there is no diagnosis (yet)... problems which for years have been labelled "attitude". When in fact, the poor kid is being pushed to the edge of insanity every single day. To a large extent, these are OUR kids, here on the board.</p><p>If WE back off? our kids are literally killed by the system. There's no way teachers can even begin to comprehend the complexities of every single student.</p><p>But as parents - we have <u>almost no</u> power with the teachers. NOTHING we say has any value. They <u>might</u> respond to a psychiatrist's report recommendations - but they will implement it they way THEY see it, not in the way that is best for your child.</p><p></p><p>But - teachers hate warrior parents. Even when time proves us right - they hate us. We make their life difficult.</p><p></p><p>Interesting aside... I know lots of people who left the teaching profession. Not ONE left because of the parents. MOST left because the system did not allow them to make a difference in the lives of kids who needed "more". Cutting a kid some slack because of challenges was "cheating". Working with the parents to come up with solutions was forbidden - not in writing, but by the culture of the system. Two old teachers - ones who taught for 20 years - have commented recently that they feel sorry for new teachers, because they are not taught how to teach. They are taught how to prepare materials, how to present materials in the "common fashion", how to mark and manage and so on. But they are NOT taught how to teach. They have to figure that part out for themselves - and it takes about 7 years. So... why do so many quit so early in their career? They don't have a clue what they are doing, and recognize that they can't handle it. Which is sad, because some could become great teachers... if someone would just teach them.</p><p></p><p>Parents are "the problem" with school? Sorry. I'm not buying it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 458676, member: 11791"] There's two sides to the story - at least. We'll see how many sides come out of this... And in my opinion, this teacher's attitude is part of the problem. BUT only part of it. There are problem parents. Ones with neurotypical kids who are spoiled brats. They DO exist. Or ones where the parent is not quite stable, and reacts to everything inappropriately. And yes, these kinds of situations are a major problem for school systems. No question. But there are also problem teachers - and ineffective ones - and ones who are too green to know what they are doing... And then there are the kids who have very real problems, but the kids of problems that are either difficult to get a diagnosis for, or for which there is no diagnosis (yet)... problems which for years have been labelled "attitude". When in fact, the poor kid is being pushed to the edge of insanity every single day. To a large extent, these are OUR kids, here on the board. If WE back off? our kids are literally killed by the system. There's no way teachers can even begin to comprehend the complexities of every single student. But as parents - we have [U]almost no[/U] power with the teachers. NOTHING we say has any value. They [U]might[/U] respond to a psychiatrist's report recommendations - but they will implement it they way THEY see it, not in the way that is best for your child. But - teachers hate warrior parents. Even when time proves us right - they hate us. We make their life difficult. Interesting aside... I know lots of people who left the teaching profession. Not ONE left because of the parents. MOST left because the system did not allow them to make a difference in the lives of kids who needed "more". Cutting a kid some slack because of challenges was "cheating". Working with the parents to come up with solutions was forbidden - not in writing, but by the culture of the system. Two old teachers - ones who taught for 20 years - have commented recently that they feel sorry for new teachers, because they are not taught how to teach. They are taught how to prepare materials, how to present materials in the "common fashion", how to mark and manage and so on. But they are NOT taught how to teach. They have to figure that part out for themselves - and it takes about 7 years. So... why do so many quit so early in their career? They don't have a clue what they are doing, and recognize that they can't handle it. Which is sad, because some could become great teachers... if someone would just teach them. Parents are "the problem" with school? Sorry. I'm not buying it. [/QUOTE]
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