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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 196747" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Kjs, the possibility of TMJ is worth checking out.</p><p></p><p>I can hear where the nurse is coming from, thinking of stress. Not that this makes it your fault - but it's certainly needing to be kept in mind because the age is a factor, the current school placement (ie new) is a factor, the difficult child-ness is definitely a factor...</p><p></p><p>We went through months of testing, of trying different things, of having difficult child 3's teacher INSIST that he was suffering form some undiagnosed medical condition and those idiot doctors just were wrong, when they kept saying that it could only be stress. She said to me, "You tell those doctors to call me, I'll tell them for you. I've seen that boy sitting in class seeming perfectly fine, then he suddenly changes colour and his head goes down on the desk - it's obviously something wrong physically."</p><p></p><p>But she was wrong. The confusing thing for us was - he was SO sick, the onset would be so sudden. Plus he was running a low-grade fever with it as well.</p><p></p><p>difficult child 3 wasn't "bunging it on" either - he wanted to be at school, so school avoidance didn't come into it. difficult child 3 himself kept saying there was something physical wrong, he just didn't feel right, and if it was just anxiety then he wouldn't feel so dreadfully ill. He was convinced he was dying, he felt so bad.</p><p></p><p>But after ruling out ALL possibilities (it took most of a year, eventually - he had attended no more than half his school year, over the entire grade) we were told (carefully, because by this time I was following the teacher's lead and insisting this was physical) that difficult child 3's problems were ALL down to anxiety. Very bad anxiety, to be sure. Anxiety so severe that just mentioning school, even in a positive way, induced nausea and low-grade fever. Taking him onto school grounds triggered vomiting. Repeatedly. But everything had been ruled out.</p><p></p><p>However, difficult child 3 didn't have headaches. Well, only minor ones. Nothing like your difficult child has been experiencing.</p><p></p><p>Bruxism could cause headaches this severe. It's certainly a good idea, and one that doctors can often miss because it's usually a dentist that picks it up (at least here). It's also moderately easy to treat, as well. </p><p></p><p>Your difficult child has just started a new era in his schooling. Even though he is bright, even though he is probably wanting to do well and capable of it (if he can stay focussed) it could still be just enough added change to tip his anxiety over the point where he can cope easily. </p><p></p><p>The other important thing - like difficult child 3, he may not realise, or even accept, that this all could be due to anxiety. difficult child 3 still insists that his anxiety isn't that bad - but I've since seen it for myself. The trigger wasn't school, it was ANY situation where we knew difficult child 3 felt anxious and had warned us he was likely to be nervous. But while he was enduring it and feeling sick, he was convinced it had to be something far worse. There was a sense of dread with it as well, and his mind had to find a logical reason for the emotion as well as the way he felt physically.</p><p></p><p>I hope you can find some answers soon, Kjs. This really can slow our kids down in their efforts to do well.</p><p></p><p>marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 196747, member: 1991"] Kjs, the possibility of TMJ is worth checking out. I can hear where the nurse is coming from, thinking of stress. Not that this makes it your fault - but it's certainly needing to be kept in mind because the age is a factor, the current school placement (ie new) is a factor, the difficult child-ness is definitely a factor... We went through months of testing, of trying different things, of having difficult child 3's teacher INSIST that he was suffering form some undiagnosed medical condition and those idiot doctors just were wrong, when they kept saying that it could only be stress. She said to me, "You tell those doctors to call me, I'll tell them for you. I've seen that boy sitting in class seeming perfectly fine, then he suddenly changes colour and his head goes down on the desk - it's obviously something wrong physically." But she was wrong. The confusing thing for us was - he was SO sick, the onset would be so sudden. Plus he was running a low-grade fever with it as well. difficult child 3 wasn't "bunging it on" either - he wanted to be at school, so school avoidance didn't come into it. difficult child 3 himself kept saying there was something physical wrong, he just didn't feel right, and if it was just anxiety then he wouldn't feel so dreadfully ill. He was convinced he was dying, he felt so bad. But after ruling out ALL possibilities (it took most of a year, eventually - he had attended no more than half his school year, over the entire grade) we were told (carefully, because by this time I was following the teacher's lead and insisting this was physical) that difficult child 3's problems were ALL down to anxiety. Very bad anxiety, to be sure. Anxiety so severe that just mentioning school, even in a positive way, induced nausea and low-grade fever. Taking him onto school grounds triggered vomiting. Repeatedly. But everything had been ruled out. However, difficult child 3 didn't have headaches. Well, only minor ones. Nothing like your difficult child has been experiencing. Bruxism could cause headaches this severe. It's certainly a good idea, and one that doctors can often miss because it's usually a dentist that picks it up (at least here). It's also moderately easy to treat, as well. Your difficult child has just started a new era in his schooling. Even though he is bright, even though he is probably wanting to do well and capable of it (if he can stay focussed) it could still be just enough added change to tip his anxiety over the point where he can cope easily. The other important thing - like difficult child 3, he may not realise, or even accept, that this all could be due to anxiety. difficult child 3 still insists that his anxiety isn't that bad - but I've since seen it for myself. The trigger wasn't school, it was ANY situation where we knew difficult child 3 felt anxious and had warned us he was likely to be nervous. But while he was enduring it and feeling sick, he was convinced it had to be something far worse. There was a sense of dread with it as well, and his mind had to find a logical reason for the emotion as well as the way he felt physically. I hope you can find some answers soon, Kjs. This really can slow our kids down in their efforts to do well. marg [/QUOTE]
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