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<blockquote data-quote="Scent of Cedar *" data-source="post: 659288" data-attributes="member: 17461"><p>In a way, this is how my sister sees things, too. I had posted before about the Rolex watches, and how though she did not have one, those who did not have one either, were less than she would be, one day.</p><p></p><p>That kind of thinking is similar in a way, to what you are describing in your father and to what Copa describes in her mother. There is something in my mother too, about how money does or does not impart value.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Only that my mother seems furious too, if things are going well. Once daughter was not perfect, it was as though my mother would become furious at anything good that was done or that happened and would celebrate the bad things with vindictive prediction of more to come.</p><p></p><p>And she would laugh about that. She would laugh at personal tragedy with such contempt for me in having been hurt, as though my children were not worth suffering for. I had never remembered that in this way before Nomad.</p><p></p><p>Man, it just keeps getting uglier.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry that happened, Nomad. You did the right thing in going to see him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When she was younger, my mom told everyone she wanted to be the respected matriarch, the woman no one forgot and everyone was kind to. D H mom is treated that way. My mom treated D H mom with am much contempt as she could get away with. The point I am making is that my mom insisted on something that D H mom has legitimately and without asking for. Was your mother insisting, as mine does, that she be honored as matriarch, as wise woman, as an unshakable source of support and wisdom though she was never any of those things to her children? (And this is part of the game my mom and my sister play ~ or maybe it is real to them and I am the mean spirited jealous person thinking bad thoughts. They play four generations; they play "Oh, don't we love our mother / watch us love our mother / how wonderful we all are that we love our mother / how lovely it is to be family and no, you can't come, too.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And for me, to <em>see</em> who they are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And of their lack of even rudimentary moral structures.</p><p></p><p>Cedar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scent of Cedar *, post: 659288, member: 17461"] In a way, this is how my sister sees things, too. I had posted before about the Rolex watches, and how though she did not have one, those who did not have one either, were less than she would be, one day. That kind of thinking is similar in a way, to what you are describing in your father and to what Copa describes in her mother. There is something in my mother too, about how money does or does not impart value. Only that my mother seems furious too, if things are going well. Once daughter was not perfect, it was as though my mother would become furious at anything good that was done or that happened and would celebrate the bad things with vindictive prediction of more to come. And she would laugh about that. She would laugh at personal tragedy with such contempt for me in having been hurt, as though my children were not worth suffering for. I had never remembered that in this way before Nomad. Man, it just keeps getting uglier. I am sorry that happened, Nomad. You did the right thing in going to see him. Good. When she was younger, my mom told everyone she wanted to be the respected matriarch, the woman no one forgot and everyone was kind to. D H mom is treated that way. My mom treated D H mom with am much contempt as she could get away with. The point I am making is that my mom insisted on something that D H mom has legitimately and without asking for. Was your mother insisting, as mine does, that she be honored as matriarch, as wise woman, as an unshakable source of support and wisdom though she was never any of those things to her children? (And this is part of the game my mom and my sister play ~ or maybe it is real to them and I am the mean spirited jealous person thinking bad thoughts. They play four generations; they play "Oh, don't we love our mother / watch us love our mother / how wonderful we all are that we love our mother / how lovely it is to be family and no, you can't come, too.) And for me, to [I]see[/I] who they are. And of their lack of even rudimentary moral structures. Cedar [/QUOTE]
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