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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 602051" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I honestly think we make a big mistake when dealing with tdocs/psychiatrists. They don't really see or experience what our kids do and they don't have a clue how bad it is. I think many of us have had psychiatrists/tdocs tell us they had no clue how bad it was after seeing our kids have a rage or whatever you call it. They use the yardstick of the badly behaving easy child to measure and treat our kids, but they don't really 'get' what we deal with. </p><p></p><p>Those of you who have been here a while know that at one point while my difficult child was hospitalized I pushed all his buttons to make him erupt during a therapy session. The therapist was good, and knew what I planned to do, and had worked with children in psychiatric hospitals for almost twenty years. She was TERRIFIED and totally freaked out when she saw and heard an experienced Wiz in a full blown rage. Talk of discharge stopped immediately and they started to really treat him because they were able to actually get the full picture of what the problem was.</p><p></p><p>I later got all the info from the psychiatric hospital that was in his chart and the notes of the sessions leading up to that day were mostly that he was a sweet, misunderstood kid with parents who were too strict but loved him. After that day? TOTAL change in the chart. He was identified as incredibly manipulative and violent and able to hide the problems and con the tdocs/nurses for long periods of time. The therapist actually wrote that she hoped he never got into a rage around her because she was afraid he would really hurt her or anyone around him. She had an orderly sit right outside her door during every one of his sessions for over a month after that day because she was afraid he would kill her before help could realize she was in trouble and could rescue her. He was in sixth grade at the time. </p><p></p><p>I firmly believe that our tdocs and psychiatrists have NO CLUE about how extreme our difficult children can get. I think you NEED to tell the therapist how you feel and how you want to tell difficult child just what you think of him. I also think more of us need to trigger rage in our kids during therapy sessions. I think it should be part of our standard operating procedure as Warrior Moms. They cannot treat what they cannot see/experience and many of them discount audio or video of a rage. Heck, many tdocs think we are just over-reacting to normal stuff until they are a few months into therapy with our kids. They think we exaggerate and no kid really acts taht way. I have gotten that feeling from most tdocs we saw with Wiz. It is one reason we saw so many before we settled on one, and why we were so upset to have to leave a therapist because it was so hard to find one who 'got it'. </p><p></p><p>I don't like having had to trigger my child's rage, and it won't feel good to anyone who does this with their child. It is still the only way I can figure out to get a therapist/psychiatrist/etc... to really know what we are dealing with. I think every one of us should at least give some serious thought to whether our docs are truly understanding what the problems are, or if they just think we are exaggerating and our poor child is misunderstood. It is hard to do this purposely, but you cannot effectively treat something you cannot comprehend. So if provoking a rage in front of a doctor will get that more effective treatment, then it may be a helpful thing to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 602051, member: 1233"] I honestly think we make a big mistake when dealing with tdocs/psychiatrists. They don't really see or experience what our kids do and they don't have a clue how bad it is. I think many of us have had psychiatrists/tdocs tell us they had no clue how bad it was after seeing our kids have a rage or whatever you call it. They use the yardstick of the badly behaving easy child to measure and treat our kids, but they don't really 'get' what we deal with. Those of you who have been here a while know that at one point while my difficult child was hospitalized I pushed all his buttons to make him erupt during a therapy session. The therapist was good, and knew what I planned to do, and had worked with children in psychiatric hospitals for almost twenty years. She was TERRIFIED and totally freaked out when she saw and heard an experienced Wiz in a full blown rage. Talk of discharge stopped immediately and they started to really treat him because they were able to actually get the full picture of what the problem was. I later got all the info from the psychiatric hospital that was in his chart and the notes of the sessions leading up to that day were mostly that he was a sweet, misunderstood kid with parents who were too strict but loved him. After that day? TOTAL change in the chart. He was identified as incredibly manipulative and violent and able to hide the problems and con the tdocs/nurses for long periods of time. The therapist actually wrote that she hoped he never got into a rage around her because she was afraid he would really hurt her or anyone around him. She had an orderly sit right outside her door during every one of his sessions for over a month after that day because she was afraid he would kill her before help could realize she was in trouble and could rescue her. He was in sixth grade at the time. I firmly believe that our tdocs and psychiatrists have NO CLUE about how extreme our difficult children can get. I think you NEED to tell the therapist how you feel and how you want to tell difficult child just what you think of him. I also think more of us need to trigger rage in our kids during therapy sessions. I think it should be part of our standard operating procedure as Warrior Moms. They cannot treat what they cannot see/experience and many of them discount audio or video of a rage. Heck, many tdocs think we are just over-reacting to normal stuff until they are a few months into therapy with our kids. They think we exaggerate and no kid really acts taht way. I have gotten that feeling from most tdocs we saw with Wiz. It is one reason we saw so many before we settled on one, and why we were so upset to have to leave a therapist because it was so hard to find one who 'got it'. I don't like having had to trigger my child's rage, and it won't feel good to anyone who does this with their child. It is still the only way I can figure out to get a therapist/psychiatrist/etc... to really know what we are dealing with. I think every one of us should at least give some serious thought to whether our docs are truly understanding what the problems are, or if they just think we are exaggerating and our poor child is misunderstood. It is hard to do this purposely, but you cannot effectively treat something you cannot comprehend. So if provoking a rage in front of a doctor will get that more effective treatment, then it may be a helpful thing to do. [/QUOTE]
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