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<blockquote data-quote="GoingNorth" data-source="post: 673615" data-attributes="member: 1963"><p>Cedar, they aren't abandoning you or your values. The addiction has no values and no friends. It just has needs, and the drive to fulfill those needs.</p><p></p><p>Addicts refer to needing a fix as being "sick", and getting a fix as "getting well"</p><p></p><p>Speaking for opioid addicts, specifically heroin, which is the addiction I've had the most exposure to, it's all-consuming. There just isn't ROOM in their lives for anything other than the addiction and the servicing of same.</p><p></p><p>It's only when you're existence coincides with the addiction's needs, that you come to its attention, as a possible way of feeding that addiction.</p><p></p><p>Hence the phone calls trying to scam money, or the visits and things going missing.</p><p></p><p>Its not that they hate you. Its that while they are addicted, there isn't enough room left in their addicted minds for you. Not when every waking moment is spent in the quest to "stay well".</p><p></p><p>And heroin? I can speak from experience. I tried it a couple of times in the late 70s. Once smoking and once snorting. I know what the rush and high feel like. I also knew/know that if I'd used it again I'd have wound up an addict and haven't touched it since.</p><p></p><p>But i do understand the appeal. Heroin, like no other drug out there, makes you feel warm, and safe and happy...very euphoric. Sadly, tolerances build and after a while, the addict no longer gets the rush and high, they just avert withdrawal. </p><p></p><p>Meth or ice is supposed to be the most incredible rush out there. I've never tried it so don't know. I do know that meth is NOT physically addictive, but takes a physchological hold on users that can be extremely difficult to break.</p><p></p><p>The big risk with meth is that the lack of food, water, and sleep during a "run" can do horrible damage to the body, and tweakers do stupid and irrational things. They also re-dose repeatedly trying to put off the "come down" as it's supposedly just horrible with meth. Deep depression, body pain, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GoingNorth, post: 673615, member: 1963"] Cedar, they aren't abandoning you or your values. The addiction has no values and no friends. It just has needs, and the drive to fulfill those needs. Addicts refer to needing a fix as being "sick", and getting a fix as "getting well" Speaking for opioid addicts, specifically heroin, which is the addiction I've had the most exposure to, it's all-consuming. There just isn't ROOM in their lives for anything other than the addiction and the servicing of same. It's only when you're existence coincides with the addiction's needs, that you come to its attention, as a possible way of feeding that addiction. Hence the phone calls trying to scam money, or the visits and things going missing. Its not that they hate you. Its that while they are addicted, there isn't enough room left in their addicted minds for you. Not when every waking moment is spent in the quest to "stay well". And heroin? I can speak from experience. I tried it a couple of times in the late 70s. Once smoking and once snorting. I know what the rush and high feel like. I also knew/know that if I'd used it again I'd have wound up an addict and haven't touched it since. But i do understand the appeal. Heroin, like no other drug out there, makes you feel warm, and safe and happy...very euphoric. Sadly, tolerances build and after a while, the addict no longer gets the rush and high, they just avert withdrawal. Meth or ice is supposed to be the most incredible rush out there. I've never tried it so don't know. I do know that meth is NOT physically addictive, but takes a physchological hold on users that can be extremely difficult to break. The big risk with meth is that the lack of food, water, and sleep during a "run" can do horrible damage to the body, and tweakers do stupid and irrational things. They also re-dose repeatedly trying to put off the "come down" as it's supposedly just horrible with meth. Deep depression, body pain, etc. [/QUOTE]
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