Wyntersgrace....Oh Wyntersgrace.......
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Hey Lisa and KTmom. Thank you for thinking of me.
It's been a rough week. Last Sat night I started with severe muscle pain. Every muscle from the knee up hurt to the touch and my back was horrible. I took 4 vicodin in one day and I've never taken that many in one day before. Plus a muscle relaxer several hours before the vicodin. It passed I think on Tuesday and I realized that it was probably from the storm/front that came through. My GP agreed.
Last week (I think - my concept of time is really off...had to ask Wynter what day it was), I did my own little completely unscientific test with my prilosec because I think it's interfering with my aygestin which is causing me to spot and exacerbating (or causing) my depression. By day 2 off the prilosec I was throwing up in my mouth again (gross, sorry) and by day 3 off I had horrible heartburn, indigestion, stomach pain. Maalox would hold me for about 10 minutes. I had to go back on the prilosec. The 3 days I was off the prilosec, no spotting and my mood improved. Back on it now and spotting is worse and a lot of abdominal pain. Think it's the endometriosis growing since the aygestin isn't working right. Plus a gnawing burning pain in my abdomen and a feeling in my throat like I'm going to throw up. Plus the depression is getting heavier. Lovely, huh?
Saw my doctor Thursday and she said to see what the GYN says on Monday about the prilosec/aygestin thing. I talked to the pharmacist about it and neither medication showed interactions, but with the entire combo I'm on, who knows. They can't test for every possible medication combination and aygestin is not a very common medication so it's probably something that just hasn't hit the radar yet. We talked about see a gasterointerologist, but I'm so sick of going from one specialist to another. I know that sounds stupid, but I'm just tired. I said I wanted to see what we hear back from the NIH - should hear in about 2 weeks, hopefully - and then go from there. She mentioned the Mayo Clinic and I said I'd rather do the Cleveland Clinic. It's closer and it probably contracts with my insurance, unlike Mayo, so it will be easier to get in. Oh. And my cardiologist appointment that I waited 3 months for (and I'm an established patient) got cancelled because they didn't have power. Sigh.
In the meantime, I keep getting new symptoms. I now have plantar fasciaitis (sp?). Pain in new places. That thing with my mom.
Stick a fork in me I'm done.
On the bright side, my blood pressure was 112/72. :yippee: So, at least that's one less worry.
Aren't you glad you asked?
I saw my new therapist on Thursday and I really liked her. Just because I like her doesn't mean she's going to be effective, though, I know. So, I'm remaining cognizant of that aspect. But, we seem to be on the same page on a lot of things so I have hope.
Lisa, enjoy your visit with your mom. Your house is what it is. I used to worry like that, too, but if you're coming to see my house and not me then don't bother coming. It will be nice to see your uncle again. Don't let your worries over your house cloud that.
Thank you for thinking of me.
(((hugs)))
It's been a rough week. Last Sat night I started with severe muscle pain. Every muscle from the knee up hurt to the touch and my back was horrible. I took 4 vicodin in one day and I've never taken that many in one day before. Plus a muscle relaxer several hours before the vicodin. It passed I think on Tuesday and I realized that it was probably from the storm/front that came through. My GP agreed.
Last week (I think - my concept of time is really off...had to ask Wynter what day it was), I did my own little completely unscientific test with my prilosec because I think it's interfering with my aygestin which is causing me to spot and exacerbating (or causing) my depression. By day 2 off the prilosec I was throwing up in my mouth again (gross, sorry) and by day 3 off I had horrible heartburn, indigestion, stomach pain. Maalox would hold me for about 10 minutes. I had to go back on the prilosec. The 3 days I was off the prilosec, no spotting and my mood improved. Back on it now and spotting is worse and a lot of abdominal pain. Think it's the endometriosis growing since the aygestin isn't working right. Plus a gnawing burning pain in my abdomen and a feeling in my throat like I'm going to throw up. Plus the depression is getting heavier. Lovely, huh?
Saw my doctor Thursday and she said to see what the GYN says on Monday about the prilosec/aygestin thing. I talked to the pharmacist about it and neither medication showed interactions, but with the entire combo I'm on, who knows. They can't test for every possible medication combination and aygestin is not a very common medication so it's probably something that just hasn't hit the radar yet. We talked about see a gasterointerologist, but I'm so sick of going from one specialist to another. I know that sounds stupid, but I'm just tired. I said I wanted to see what we hear back from the NIH - should hear in about 2 weeks, hopefully - and then go from there. She mentioned the Mayo Clinic and I said I'd rather do the Cleveland Clinic. It's closer and it probably contracts with my insurance, unlike Mayo, so it will be easier to get in. Oh. And my cardiologist appointment that I waited 3 months for (and I'm an established patient) got cancelled because they didn't have power. Sigh.
In the meantime, I keep getting new symptoms. I now have plantar fasciaitis (sp?). Pain in new places. That thing with my mom.
Stick a fork in me I'm done.
On the bright side, my blood pressure was 112/72. :yippee: So, at least that's one less worry.
Aren't you glad you asked?
I saw my new therapist on Thursday and I really liked her. Just because I like her doesn't mean she's going to be effective, though, I know. So, I'm remaining cognizant of that aspect. But, we seem to be on the same page on a lot of things so I have hope.
Lisa, enjoy your visit with your mom. Your house is what it is. I used to worry like that, too, but if you're coming to see my house and not me then don't bother coming. It will be nice to see your uncle again. Don't let your worries over your house cloud that.
Thank you for thinking of me.
(((hugs)))
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flutterbee
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Oh. And I didn't mention the huge battle last night with Wynter over her medications. I'm so sick of this cr@p. She's been going along just fine and then decides she's not doing it anymore. Happens every flippin time.
I'm just so sick of it all. Just for once I would like things to go the way they are supposed to.
I need an EASY button.
I'm just so sick of it all. Just for once I would like things to go the way they are supposed to.
I need an EASY button.
Hey Lady,
I really AM glad that Lisa asked. And that you answered completely. So sorry about the aygestin/prilosec thing. I go through similar stuff, though never with the GYN problems anymore. PUSH your gyn to let you try a different medication for your stomach. There are quite a few, many even give samples (an outdated practice I am finding). I did well with aciphex when we were trying to get my GYN problems under control.
I hate that you are going through all of this. I do know your pain though. I truly do. I currently am on constant pain medications delivered through a patch. I have a second patch that delivers lidocaine to an area (Lidoderm) and that is a wonderful thing. If you can afford to try one box of the Lidoderm, it might help. Then you could work with the manuf. to help with the cost.
I am sending very gentle hugs.
The problem with wynter refusing medications after she has been helped is very common. I don't know how to tell you to help, except maybe using Stop the World where every single thing in her life stops and seh has some horrible chore that she has to do until she takes the medications? Anyway, that is one suggestion, but I hope you can reason with her.
Many hugs,
susie
I really AM glad that Lisa asked. And that you answered completely. So sorry about the aygestin/prilosec thing. I go through similar stuff, though never with the GYN problems anymore. PUSH your gyn to let you try a different medication for your stomach. There are quite a few, many even give samples (an outdated practice I am finding). I did well with aciphex when we were trying to get my GYN problems under control.
I hate that you are going through all of this. I do know your pain though. I truly do. I currently am on constant pain medications delivered through a patch. I have a second patch that delivers lidocaine to an area (Lidoderm) and that is a wonderful thing. If you can afford to try one box of the Lidoderm, it might help. Then you could work with the manuf. to help with the cost.
I am sending very gentle hugs.
The problem with wynter refusing medications after she has been helped is very common. I don't know how to tell you to help, except maybe using Stop the World where every single thing in her life stops and seh has some horrible chore that she has to do until she takes the medications? Anyway, that is one suggestion, but I hope you can reason with her.
Many hugs,
susie
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Heather
I was worried that the pain had gotten alot worse. I'm glad to hear it has back off some. I'd ask for a new stomach medication too. There is plenty out there to at least make an attempt to find one that won't give you additional problems (you need that like a hole in your head) Wonderful that your b/p is so good.
I hope the pain stays low for a while. I'm sure you need the break after that stretch.
Glad you like the new therapist. I hope she works out.
As for the house.........now don't scream........7 hours to just get it picked up!
I've threatened eviction if it ever gets like that again. Fortunately for me, Nichole got up with me at 7am and without a complaint jumped right in to help. Otherwise......I shudder to think. lol
Nope. It wasn't perfect by a long shot. But after 7 hours I didn't give a hoot. I was pooped. Nichole was pooped. (although now I can tackled the big cleaning alot easier and faster)
Mom and uncle didn't care. One of the most pleasant visits I've ever had with my mom. And my uncle is as wonderful as he was when I was young. We had a wonderful time. He's asked husband and I to come visit him at his cabin in south carolina. (wow I had where he lived all wrong lol) The way he describes it, we just may take him up on it. Sounds beautiful. And doesn't Janet live in south carolina.....I might just drop in on her. And I won't give a hoot if her home is clean. lol
I have this thing with my kids and medications. And I've been this way since they were very very small. You take it, or I give it to you. And having had to give medications to patients who didn't want to take them.......lets just say there are ways, unpleasant, but they go down.
Didn't have medication issues until they were over 18, and at that point I figured it was up to them, I'd done my part.
Although you might give her a few days. When that anxiety hits, and it will, and it will feel worse, calmly remind her that she did not feel that way on the medications. So why is she making herself suffer when it's not necessary? It sure did help with Nichole.
(((hugs)))
I was worried that the pain had gotten alot worse. I'm glad to hear it has back off some. I'd ask for a new stomach medication too. There is plenty out there to at least make an attempt to find one that won't give you additional problems (you need that like a hole in your head) Wonderful that your b/p is so good.
I hope the pain stays low for a while. I'm sure you need the break after that stretch.Glad you like the new therapist. I hope she works out.
As for the house.........now don't scream........7 hours to just get it picked up!
I've threatened eviction if it ever gets like that again. Fortunately for me, Nichole got up with me at 7am and without a complaint jumped right in to help. Otherwise......I shudder to think. lolNope. It wasn't perfect by a long shot. But after 7 hours I didn't give a hoot. I was pooped. Nichole was pooped. (although now I can tackled the big cleaning alot easier and faster)
Mom and uncle didn't care. One of the most pleasant visits I've ever had with my mom. And my uncle is as wonderful as he was when I was young. We had a wonderful time.
He's asked husband and I to come visit him at his cabin in south carolina. (wow I had where he lived all wrong lol) The way he describes it, we just may take him up on it. Sounds beautiful. And doesn't Janet live in south carolina.....I might just drop in on her. And I won't give a hoot if her home is clean. lol I have this thing with my kids and medications. And I've been this way since they were very very small. You take it, or I give it to you. And having had to give medications to patients who didn't want to take them.......lets just say there are ways, unpleasant, but they go down.
Didn't have medication issues until they were over 18, and at that point I figured it was up to them, I'd done my part.
Although you might give her a few days. When that anxiety hits, and it will, and it will feel worse, calmly remind her that she did not feel that way on the medications. So why is she making herself suffer when it's not necessary? It sure did help with Nichole.
(((hugs)))
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flutterbee
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Lisa,
I'm glad you had such a nice visit. I'd be taking your uncle up on that offer. Sounds wonderful. Good that you got such a good, if forced, jump on your cleaning.
How about you come to my house and force the medications issue? You think I'm kidding. I was on the phone with Janet when this thing started. You can ask her how much success I was having. Or not having, rather.
I bet Wynter will listen to you. She makes me so tired.
And as Devon is the prodigal son and yet has gotten himself too overwhelmed with school, work, and his girlfriend and has skipped 2 homework assignments even though he was off school Mon, Tues, Thurs and Friday and didn't work Tues or Thurs. And he had friends here from Sun night til they left some time Friday (they didn't have power until late Thurs night) and my son - you know, the one who according to my mom does no wrong and is the only of my kids helping me - couldn't bother to put his or his friends' dishes in the dishwasher. (Not to mention all the food they ate.) I started telling him to do it on Wed. By today both sides of the sink were full. I told the boys that my dishwasher was NOT childproof. Apparently, they didn't believe me.
So, I called my mom and told her that she needed to talk to him because I was tired of repeating myself. That I'm sick, I'm tired and I have enough with Wynter. She gets Devon and I get Wynter. Tag team. Plus, she needed to be reminded that she can't be so hard on one and not the other. I also let her know that Wynter WAS putting her dishes in the dishwasher and picking up after herself and taking care of the dogs.
So there.
I also called Devon at work and told him to bring home some M&M's and that he didn't need to come get money from me. That he could pay for it himself since I fed his friends all week and they didn't pick up after themselves.
Don't mess with me when I'm cranky. Well, excpet for Wynter. She has got to be the most treatment resistant person on the planet.
I'm glad you had such a nice visit. I'd be taking your uncle up on that offer. Sounds wonderful. Good that you got such a good, if forced, jump on your cleaning.
How about you come to my house and force the medications issue? You think I'm kidding. I was on the phone with Janet when this thing started. You can ask her how much success I was having. Or not having, rather.
I bet Wynter will listen to you.
She makes me so tired.And as Devon is the prodigal son and yet has gotten himself too overwhelmed with school, work, and his girlfriend and has skipped 2 homework assignments even though he was off school Mon, Tues, Thurs and Friday and didn't work Tues or Thurs. And he had friends here from Sun night til they left some time Friday (they didn't have power until late Thurs night) and my son - you know, the one who according to my mom does no wrong and is the only of my kids helping me - couldn't bother to put his or his friends' dishes in the dishwasher. (Not to mention all the food they ate.) I started telling him to do it on Wed. By today both sides of the sink were full. I told the boys that my dishwasher was NOT childproof. Apparently, they didn't believe me.
So, I called my mom and told her that she needed to talk to him because I was tired of repeating myself. That I'm sick, I'm tired and I have enough with Wynter. She gets Devon and I get Wynter. Tag team. Plus, she needed to be reminded that she can't be so hard on one and not the other. I also let her know that Wynter WAS putting her dishes in the dishwasher and picking up after herself and taking care of the dogs.
So there.
I also called Devon at work and told him to bring home some M&M's and that he didn't need to come get money from me. That he could pay for it himself since I fed his friends all week and they didn't pick up after themselves.
Don't mess with me when I'm cranky. Well, excpet for Wynter. She has got to be the most treatment resistant person on the planet.
Hound dog
Nana's are Beautiful
Even PCs can be PITAs once in a while. I never worried about homework after grade school, it was their problem. So can't really advise there. Natural conscequences ought to take care of it. But I've told Nichole that if I have to clean up after friends, those friends won't return for a while. It has only been an issue once or twice.
The need to take medications really really bothered Nichole at first. I do remember that much. But once they took hold real well.......and she'd miss a dose or two......wham! She noticed the huge difference. I'd chose those moments to tell her she's lucky to have a choice. Her medications work for her when she needs them. So it's stupid to suffer when she didn't have to. Who knows? Maybe I just repeated it so much it eventually just sunk in of it's own accord. lol But because she started medications at 15, she had 3 yrs of taking them without a choice so that she could understand life is not meant to be lived in a constant state of horrible anxiety/depression.
Don't know if my method would work. Like I said, I started my kids out that way with medications. lol They never got yummy tasting medications from docs if I could help it. (I had Travis nearly OD that way at age 5) So they were used to my method and knew I'd follow thru. lol
I wish we could talk her into taking them long enough that she could understand her life could be so much better.
Hugs
The need to take medications really really bothered Nichole at first. I do remember that much. But once they took hold real well.......and she'd miss a dose or two......wham! She noticed the huge difference. I'd chose those moments to tell her she's lucky to have a choice. Her medications work for her when she needs them. So it's stupid to suffer when she didn't have to. Who knows? Maybe I just repeated it so much it eventually just sunk in of it's own accord. lol But because she started medications at 15, she had 3 yrs of taking them without a choice so that she could understand life is not meant to be lived in a constant state of horrible anxiety/depression.
Don't know if my method would work. Like I said, I started my kids out that way with medications. lol They never got yummy tasting medications from docs if I could help it. (I had Travis nearly OD that way at age 5) So they were used to my method and knew I'd follow thru. lol
I wish we could talk her into taking them long enough that she could understand her life could be so much better.
Hugs
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flutterbee
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Wynter came in and started her angst again tonight. The thing I told her last night that I wasn't going to do anymore. And I got the gnawing, burning pain right at my belly button again and feeling nauseous just like last night.
So, I told her I wasn't doing this. That she was doing zero to help herself. And I went in Devon's room and closed the door.
Still feel sick to my stomach.
So, I told her I wasn't doing this. That she was doing zero to help herself. And I went in Devon's room and closed the door.
Still feel sick to my stomach.
