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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 594569" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Sounds like she is raising me, lol. I had a grand time messing wth the heads of my peers and teachers alike. we didn't have a counsellor when I was in elem school. It was a Catholic school because gma would have had a hissy if we went to public school and the public school was teaching sight reading which my mom thought was a crock of bs. Given that I learned to read when my bro did, as he came home from school and taught me what he learned that day, and it was the ONLY way to keep me on the potty long enough to actually potty, i was reading from before I was potty trained. My mom still swears that teh only reason I learned to use the bathroom is because she kept books in there. She is right, of course. Same worked iwth my kids, lol.</p><p></p><p>The biting is because vampires are everywhere now. Duh. I knew from what you first said that it was a first year or very new teacher. Or else an older, hide bound teacher with no real desire to think outside the box for a very smart child. We saw a LOT of those with Wiz. He was reading chapter books in under two-three hours when he went INTO kdg and we had teachers who begged us to NOT send him to their schools because they knew they could NOT meet his needs. </p><p></p><p>I doubt she is adhd. Sadly, a lot of teachers use that to mean kids who get bored easily because they are smart and learn things the first time around. One thing that really helped Jess was to have her help a student who had a hard time learning. Going over the material with a slower student helped because as you teach it reinforces the info in your own mind. It also occupied her time and elt her really SEE that some students just don't learn things as fast as she did. She has a real gift for teaching esp the students with learning disabilities. In fifth grade she befriended a girl with the biggest heart but fetal alcohol effects who could not remember things. With some tips from me, she was able to tie new info to things that T (the girl) was interested in. T made HUGE strides and is still a friend. In fact, T and her little brother both protected thank you on the bus when he was getting bullied because of how much T liked J and I. I had no idea until recently that J was the first student who ever didn't make fun of T's learning problems and that I was the first adult outside of her gma and a couple of teachers who ever treated T like a person who was valuable and interesting. I think Aubrey could probably see others T as just people and not as less than or different, and she could make some friends that way. T may not have been as traditionally smart, but she is loyal and loving and a good friend. Aubrey doesn't seem like the type to see anyone as 'less than' and this could be a way to make her life easier at school. It makes the teacher's life easier and helps a student and Aubrey. It can take some time for the teacher to understand that allowing Aubrey to talk quietly as she explains thgns to the other student is different htan just talking during class. </p><p></p><p>Smart kids get a bum rap in schools, in my opinion. Most people assume smart kids will figure things out and don't need extra help or to be allowed to do other thngs when they are done with their work. Truly smart kids don't sit quietly and wait until the next assignment is given. They figure out things to do and often end up in trouble because of this. Sadly, teachers are one oft he least reliable predictors of true gifted intelligence. other kids are the most reliable, parents next and teachers are right way less than half of the time. There are studies that back this up, one of them said other kids are right 80% of the time, parents 60-70%, and teachers 20-40%. Mostly it is because teachers identify the students who do the work correctly and sit quietly until the next assignment as gifted but see the child who does the work or does part of it and stops due to boredom and then finds something else to do (that often is NOT something the teacher wants them to do) as a trouble maker or problem child rather than as a gifted child who needs more challenging work. Of course some teachers don't fit this, but many do.</p><p></p><p>We had to fight for protections for Wiz due to this stigma, as he DID find other things to do and often they were exasperating at best for the teacher. Nichole is TOTALLY right in how she is handling this.</p><p></p><p>I hope Aubrey never loses her love for learning and she never stops thinking out of the box. NEVER. </p><p></p><p>Programs for gifted students, sometimes called GATE (gifted and talented education) or extended studies, are sometimes helpful. In his first elem school, Wiz was the youngest child in the program. It was a full day pull out program and the ONLY day of the week he learned anything. After several months of his idiot reg teacher harping on what a problem and 'bad' kid he was (I hit the ROOF over her telling him he was "bad" and she is the one who drove him to try suicide because she would not leave him alone even after he was out of her class), I asked her and the principal why I had to send him to school on days he did not have the GATE class, after all he was not learning anything but how awful he was those 4 days of the week. Boy did that cause a ruckus. By the time I was done the principal was begging me to homeschool, lololol. </p><p></p><p>Be watchful of gifted classes. Sometimes the teacher has a specific idea what gifted is, and those that don't fit that narrow definition are often worse off after being put intot hat class.</p><p></p><p>They cannot, by law, take away recess or free time or give homework to make us what is missed in the reg class while the child is in a gifted program. It is not optional or something they have a choice over. It is federal law. Don't let them do that to her. </p><p></p><p>She is a great kid. She will educate her teachers at least as much as they will educate her. An tehy are LUCKY and BLESSED by this, even if they don't think so.</p><p></p><p>You might tell her not to color the dog or cat's tummy with a marker. Or to use a food color marker if she does. We never thought to tell J this, and somehow she got one of our cats who was the squirreliest wiggliest thing to let her use a crayola marker to color his tummy green. No one told her not to, after all. How she got that particular cat to allow this I will NEVER know. Food color markers ARE safe to use on animals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 594569, member: 1233"] Sounds like she is raising me, lol. I had a grand time messing wth the heads of my peers and teachers alike. we didn't have a counsellor when I was in elem school. It was a Catholic school because gma would have had a hissy if we went to public school and the public school was teaching sight reading which my mom thought was a crock of bs. Given that I learned to read when my bro did, as he came home from school and taught me what he learned that day, and it was the ONLY way to keep me on the potty long enough to actually potty, i was reading from before I was potty trained. My mom still swears that teh only reason I learned to use the bathroom is because she kept books in there. She is right, of course. Same worked iwth my kids, lol. The biting is because vampires are everywhere now. Duh. I knew from what you first said that it was a first year or very new teacher. Or else an older, hide bound teacher with no real desire to think outside the box for a very smart child. We saw a LOT of those with Wiz. He was reading chapter books in under two-three hours when he went INTO kdg and we had teachers who begged us to NOT send him to their schools because they knew they could NOT meet his needs. I doubt she is adhd. Sadly, a lot of teachers use that to mean kids who get bored easily because they are smart and learn things the first time around. One thing that really helped Jess was to have her help a student who had a hard time learning. Going over the material with a slower student helped because as you teach it reinforces the info in your own mind. It also occupied her time and elt her really SEE that some students just don't learn things as fast as she did. She has a real gift for teaching esp the students with learning disabilities. In fifth grade she befriended a girl with the biggest heart but fetal alcohol effects who could not remember things. With some tips from me, she was able to tie new info to things that T (the girl) was interested in. T made HUGE strides and is still a friend. In fact, T and her little brother both protected thank you on the bus when he was getting bullied because of how much T liked J and I. I had no idea until recently that J was the first student who ever didn't make fun of T's learning problems and that I was the first adult outside of her gma and a couple of teachers who ever treated T like a person who was valuable and interesting. I think Aubrey could probably see others T as just people and not as less than or different, and she could make some friends that way. T may not have been as traditionally smart, but she is loyal and loving and a good friend. Aubrey doesn't seem like the type to see anyone as 'less than' and this could be a way to make her life easier at school. It makes the teacher's life easier and helps a student and Aubrey. It can take some time for the teacher to understand that allowing Aubrey to talk quietly as she explains thgns to the other student is different htan just talking during class. Smart kids get a bum rap in schools, in my opinion. Most people assume smart kids will figure things out and don't need extra help or to be allowed to do other thngs when they are done with their work. Truly smart kids don't sit quietly and wait until the next assignment is given. They figure out things to do and often end up in trouble because of this. Sadly, teachers are one oft he least reliable predictors of true gifted intelligence. other kids are the most reliable, parents next and teachers are right way less than half of the time. There are studies that back this up, one of them said other kids are right 80% of the time, parents 60-70%, and teachers 20-40%. Mostly it is because teachers identify the students who do the work correctly and sit quietly until the next assignment as gifted but see the child who does the work or does part of it and stops due to boredom and then finds something else to do (that often is NOT something the teacher wants them to do) as a trouble maker or problem child rather than as a gifted child who needs more challenging work. Of course some teachers don't fit this, but many do. We had to fight for protections for Wiz due to this stigma, as he DID find other things to do and often they were exasperating at best for the teacher. Nichole is TOTALLY right in how she is handling this. I hope Aubrey never loses her love for learning and she never stops thinking out of the box. NEVER. Programs for gifted students, sometimes called GATE (gifted and talented education) or extended studies, are sometimes helpful. In his first elem school, Wiz was the youngest child in the program. It was a full day pull out program and the ONLY day of the week he learned anything. After several months of his idiot reg teacher harping on what a problem and 'bad' kid he was (I hit the ROOF over her telling him he was "bad" and she is the one who drove him to try suicide because she would not leave him alone even after he was out of her class), I asked her and the principal why I had to send him to school on days he did not have the GATE class, after all he was not learning anything but how awful he was those 4 days of the week. Boy did that cause a ruckus. By the time I was done the principal was begging me to homeschool, lololol. Be watchful of gifted classes. Sometimes the teacher has a specific idea what gifted is, and those that don't fit that narrow definition are often worse off after being put intot hat class. They cannot, by law, take away recess or free time or give homework to make us what is missed in the reg class while the child is in a gifted program. It is not optional or something they have a choice over. It is federal law. Don't let them do that to her. She is a great kid. She will educate her teachers at least as much as they will educate her. An tehy are LUCKY and BLESSED by this, even if they don't think so. You might tell her not to color the dog or cat's tummy with a marker. Or to use a food color marker if she does. We never thought to tell J this, and somehow she got one of our cats who was the squirreliest wiggliest thing to let her use a crayola marker to color his tummy green. No one told her not to, after all. How she got that particular cat to allow this I will NEVER know. Food color markers ARE safe to use on animals. [/QUOTE]
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