Support for parents http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/ Support for parents of difficult children. Conduct disorders, ADD, ADHD, oppositional defiance disorder, odd, defiant, autism, bipolar, anxiety etc. en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:50:41 GMT vBulletin 60 http://cd1.styleanddesign.netdna-cdn.com/forum/images/misc/rss.png Support for parents http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/ <![CDATA[I know I've seen this somewhere in the Archieves]]> http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f10/i-know-ive-seen-somewhere-archieves-54191-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:17:25 GMT But I can't find it now. There is an article about RAD and school. I'm trying to find it for my sister who has a special needs kid too. Does anyone know where it is? ]]> The Watercooler Liahona http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f10/i-know-ive-seen-somewhere-archieves-54191/ having a rough day http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/having-rough-day-54190-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:49:02 GMT I'm just having a very rough time of it and need to vent. All the kids are requiring me to be a task driver to get them to do anything. They are running circles around me and I am so mad. Right now they are all in separate rooms while I'm in here with Cherub calming down.

Gfg1 normally does a lot of work around here. I'm picking up the difference with him being gone, but the other kids need to do their work without me directing them. Everything I ask them to do they can and have done independently before. Gfg2 did great until the very last little bit of the morning routine. He only had a little bit left to do and he stopped!

AGHHHHH! I think Buster, Cherub, Elsie and I are going to read stories. ]]> General Parenting Liahona http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/having-rough-day-54190/ Gfg does not qualify for summer school http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/difficult-child-does-not-qualify-summer-school-54189-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:45:34 GMT So gfg's counselor came up to my desk yesterday morning and told me she isn't eligible for summer school because she doesn't have a lot of truancies. Apparently summer school is in high demand and they are only accepting kids that have major truancy problems or excessive tardies. Gfg has had many medical issues due to her ulcers this year so her absences have all been cleared as excused. I even have multiple doctor's notes to back me up. So her illness is working against her. Her counselor actually suggested that next year I purposely make her truant in the computer so she will qualify for summer school. Gfg is currently failing English so she needs to make it up but can't. His idea to ruin her attendance is crazy and I absolutely will not do it. So now she is stuck going to adult ed in her senior year to make up her English credits.

I am incredibly unhappy about it but apparently there is nothing I can do. My mom already hired a tutor for summer school but now we are going to have to tell her she can't do it. My mom just sent me an email telling me I need to move back into my old area and put gfg back in her old school. Gfg hated the school at first but she was finally making friends when we moved. She qualifies for summer school there but not at my district. My mom is putting huge pressure on me to move. I just moved to this city back in April. It was incredibly stressful for me. I don't even have the money for a deposit for a new place. And the gas I was spending to commute to work was very expensive. Gfg still hasn't made friends at this school but she did transfer in the middle of the semester and that's always hard. I think she will have a better opportunity to make friends next year. She absolutely loves the school psych here. He really helps her with her anxiety and motivates her. He thinks changing schools is not the answer. But my mom is making me second guess myself. I am already experiencing anxiety from hell and her email today really brought up the anxiety even more. I am super stressed out and I can't even think straight. I have no idea what to do. Right now I just wanna bury my head underneath the covers and not come out for days. I know that of course that's not an option, but I am so totally wishing I could get a break! ]]> General Parenting Californiablonde http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/difficult-child-does-not-qualify-summer-school-54189/ Slim White envelope, University rejection letter,here we go... http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f11/slim-white-envelope-university-rejection-letter-here-we-go-54188-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:04:33 GMT The slim envelope came today...

H held it up to the light and they rejected gfg's application. I assume gfg already knows - I am sure he has been checking online - and has neglected to tell us.

The preppy button down shirts he had been wearing have sat in the ironing bin - unworn - for weeks now and he's back to his skater boy look.

He did say he would be willing to go to community college if he was rejected but of course he was SURE they would accept him. "Mom, Uni won't reject me, they take everyone..." Bad case of Special Snowflake syndrome...

He has never been willing to go to CC and it's always been the "placate mom or dad" line to buy time. It was asking him to follow thru with CC Jan 2012 that blew everything up in our face.

He is still working commercial landscape 50 hours a week, but going out late every night, hanging out with an older crowd and not with his lifelong, same-age friends...

The local, 10 day long music festival starts next week, he has a daily pass and will be going to the concerts to see the raging, alternative rappers - they're so UGLY. The music fest is a drinking and hookup fest for HS/College aged/Trashy people ... and scores of kids get in trouble each year... DS has always LOVED it and I am dreading the next 2 weeks or so; especially since he is legal drinking age. My gf is the ass't DA and she refers to the next 2 weeks as her super-busy time...

I hope I am wrong, but I think we are once again at the high point of the roller coaster - the pause before the plunge.

UGH

(my aunt just died, so I am rushing to get work done & caught up so I can go out of town with my mom for the next 2 days for the funeral. I am dreading it and this doesn't help. I was all ready overworked and overwhelmed with my schedule, work strife & all the stuff that needs to be done around the house...and now I am anxiously frazzled....DOUBLE UGH)

Hold a good thought for me. He was on the edge of turning his life around and I think this may tip him backwards AGAIN. ]]> Substance Abuse Signorina http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f11/slim-white-envelope-university-rejection-letter-here-we-go-54188/ Furkid Needs Board Juju! http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f10/furkid-needs-board-juju-54187-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:38:10 GMT Attachment 97 (http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=97) This is Squirrel, my youngest furbaby... She has been acting... isis.jpg
This is Squirrel, my youngest furbaby... She has been acting weird for a couple of days, and then today started seizing and frothing at the mouth. Blood, too. The only thing we can figure is her flea treatment was put on her Monday. According to the vet, they've seen this before in cats and think it is a QC issue with the flea treatment. Though since she has not had shots in several years due to her being indoor-only, they're trying to say rabies... And my old vet, the one that's too far away for an emergency, was OK with the no shots, in fact recommended it after AngelKitten and Possum had different reactions (AK's were severe enough I almost lost her more than once). I'm worried my little Squirrel-kitty isn't going to make it.
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]]> The Watercooler StepTo2 http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f10/furkid-needs-board-juju-54187/ No more empty nest http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/no-more-empty-nest-54186-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:48:56 GMT for awhile... So unhappy. I want to try to help GFG3 (yes, it's official, I'm going to redo my signature and change her from PC/GFG3 to just GFG3) get her feet back on the ground but at the same time, I'm dreading having her live with us. It's bringing back so many unpleasant memories that I thought I had successfully buried. She isn't even back yet and I'm miserable, dreading her return, feeling much the way I did years ago - Emotionally drained, sad, worried, scared, angry... And, IMHO, one of the worst feelings of all - Guilty.

Rationally, I know I don't have any reason to feel guilty over not wanting her moving back in even if it's only temporary, but emotionally, I'm a wreck! Why can't I move past the feelings of guilt? Guilt seems to hit me like huge waves while swimming in the ocean, temporarily knocking me down, washing over me, then the guilty feelings subside. However, they always seem to come back. Help...

I know things are different this time. She is legally an adult and if she doesn't treat DH and I with the consideration and respect we deserve, take the necessary steps to help herself, she will have to move out. Of course detachment is easy to talk about and difficult to practice - What an understatement!!

She is supposedly returning sometime this weekend, Monday at the latest. The good news is that she has a job!! This is huge!! The plan is that she will bank all the money she makes (we're providing shelter, food, transportation, etc.), find a room/apartment to share near the college she attends, a job on or near the campus, and return to school in the fall.

Realistically, I don't think this plan will become reality unless she agrees to see a tdoc/pdoc, get the counseling/meds she needs to begin climbing out of the hole she's created for herself. She is flatly refusing to do this. Right now she is her own worst enemy. I don't know if she is aware of this or not.

Just when things were beginning to go well, DH and I getting our feet back on the ground, beginning to relax, enjoy life as empty nesters... - BAM, it's over... I need a case of tissues! SFR ]]> Parent Emeritus SearchingForRainbows http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/no-more-empty-nest-54186/ Important another pet food recall http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f10/important-another-pet-food-recall-54185-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:48:39 GMT http://www.naturapet.com/recall http://www.naturapet.com/recall ]]> The Watercooler SearchingForRainbows http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f10/important-another-pet-food-recall-54185/ <![CDATA[Can't take it anymore...I can't...I can't...I can't]]> http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/cant-take-anymore-i-cant-i-cant-i-cant-54184-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:59:17 GMT OMG. My life would be so peaceful except for 35. But that's a big if. I really don't know how much longer I can take it, Al-Anon or not. If I just let him go, he's going to kill himself. Not over drugs. Over this custody battle, which is crazy. His ex makes him seem like Prince Father. She is determined, with all that is in her, to stop my son from having his son in his life at all, even refusing to list him as a contact when she signed J. up for school. She put down her boyfriend and called him Stepfather. She likes to pretend J. doesn't have a father at all and that her boyfriend has married her. It's sick. My son had to go to school to correct it, but THAT is her attitude. And the court favors women.

In the meantime, I am making sure I don't take all of 35's calls, but ANY time I talk to him it's too much. He is not abusing me right now so it is harder to detach. He is frantic, crazed, sure he will lose the custody battle. My own ex, who is paying for 35's lawyer, called the lawyer today to ask about charges and 35 thinks his father is going to stop paying and hang him out to dry so that he doesn't get his son anymore. I am in shock at how the courts are when it comes to custody and how his ex refuses to mediate or settle with him on ANYTHING. Honesty, family court regarding custody is simply a forum for lawyers to make money. Even the GAL is a lawyer.

Ok, so let's get to the nitty gritty. 35 is perfectly capable of killing himself if he loses this battle and it's not a battle I can help out with. I have no money. His father does. If his father pulls the plug, then he's out of luck. As of now, although he drinks too much, he is not dying of alcoholism. He is far from that. If he kills himself, it is due to mental illness. He is not unwilling to get help. He is unable to afford help. And the county/sliding scale mental health centers won't take him. His income is too high, even though he is out of money because of excess expenses, child support, and daycare and legal fees. For a child who he may barely get to see if his ex gets legal custody. (I know that doesn't mean he can't see his son legally, but she will find a way to make sure he doesn't). And he will never be able to afford to hire a lawyer again, no matter what his ex does to exclude him from his son's life. And without a lawyer, if the other one has one, you can't win. And ex will not compromise at all...so mediation is not an option. Ok, so he could die of mental illness. My son could die of mental illness, as many people have. This particular fight is enough to put a totally stable person over the edge, but he has an anxiety and mood disorder.

For me, that makes it so much harder to detach. It wasn't hard for me to give Daughter a kick in the tail when she was using drugs. But it is hard for me to kick this mentally ill kid of mine who the system is failing. In this country that we live in,that doesn't offer health care, he has to chose between his mental health being treated or fighting for his son. He can't do both. It's not affordable.

I picked up my Al-Anon literature and tried to get it to help me. All I kept hearing in the back of my mind was, "He won't die of alcoholism. This is a whole different issue." So it didn't help me tonight. I was undecided as to whether or not to post this. If you see it, you know what my decision was...lol.

I wish there was an on and off switch to switch off love so that the hard times of our kids did not hurt so much. ]]> Parent Emeritus MidwestMom http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/cant-take-anymore-i-cant-i-cant-i-cant-54184/ A little on edge http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f11/little-edge-54183-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:52:52 GMT So I heard today that they have found a bed for my gfg in a residential tx place.... I know nothing about the place at this point. They are getting... So I heard today that they have found a bed for my gfg in a residential tx place.... I know nothing about the place at this point. They are getting him there tomorrow and want me to bring him some clothes at court.... problem is I dont know what time he will be getting to court, and his gf has all his clothes and I cant get in touch with her. I have a work committment in the morning which I do not want to miss... the rest of the day is more flexible.
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For some reason the uncertainty of the details is getting to me. I dont know why that is?

I was telling my dh today that I hope my son doesnt blow it and I should remind him not to steal!!! What am I saying? I need to just keep my mouth shut, do I really think my reminding him of anything will make any difference at all? This really is out of my hands, if he blows it and steals then he will do time. Pure and simple and he will still be safe. I need to really detach with love and let go of the outcome.

All I can do is let him know I love him.

But it is anxiety provoking.

​TL ]]> Substance Abuse toughlovin http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f11/little-edge-54183/ <![CDATA[Your Child's Most Bizarre Obsession?]]> http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/your-childs-most-bizarre-obsession-54182-new/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:44:54 GMT The Boy has pretty much been obsessed with a limited number of "fairly typical" things...helicopters, Cars, water, pin wheels, etc. It gets on my nerves, but it doesn't rule our lives...e.g., he has helicopter toys, but he isn't allowed to only play with them. We don't feed the obsession, but so far haven't "banned" anything (we did have to remove helicopters at one point because he was just "stuck").

This morning, for whatever reason, The Boy woke up obsessed with hair. I have absolutely no idea what it's about, but it's incredibly strange. He found a barbie with long hair, and has been wandering around talking about her hair, about how he is going to have long hair, about how his hair is soft, etc. Beyond weird, and I just can't be that parent who says "go for it" and buys the kid a wig. Right now, we're ignoring it completely to see if it goes away on its own but ohhhh how I hope he comes up with something new fast.

For those of you with kids with OCD/ASD/etc...what has been your kiddos strangest obsession?

Also: I should probably post this as a separate thread, but...for those of your children with mental illness vs ASD/OCD/ADHD...can they "turn it off" for periods of time? We still aren't sure what The Boy's actual diagnosis is, and I'm just curious. He can (after days/weeks of more typical behavior) wake up completely "crazy" in the morning with high pressurized speech, completely unfocused and unable to answer questions, only focused on his obsessions and saying things that don't make sense. We do "summer homeschool," and when I say it's time to work, he can turn off the "crazy" for a couple of hours and complete the tasks. I've had kids with both ASD and MI diagnosis at work and none of them have been able to "turn it off." ]]> General Parenting TheBoyHasArrived http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/your-childs-most-bizarre-obsession-54182/ Yeesh! GFG suspended from work. Again. http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/yeesh-difficult-child-suspended-work-again-54181-new/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:05:47 GMT My GFG is an idiot!

This morning, DH got a call from GFG: "Dad, I'm sick. I'm not feeling well and want to go home from work."

Okay, fine. GFG is taking a sick day. So, after work this evening, DH went over to visit him to make sure he's okay. Turns out that he's not sick at all, but he has been suspended from work again. This time for a week. And he's been banned from attending the company picnic next Saturday, since it falls within the week of his suspension.

His infraction? Apparently, this morning he walked up to the staff entrance and kicked the door open, not in anger or anything, but because he was being boisterous and showing off. Major breach of the health and safety code -- the way the doors are configured, he could have injured someone. Not to mention, the Size 13 steel toed work boot attached to GFG's 36" inseam leg could have connected with someone's head, or chest, or hand, or something.

I have a feeling GFG's off his meds again. Sigh...

(Starbie, darling, you were right. GFG will never really grow up. And it's so wonderful to "see" you. I've missed you.) ]]> Parent Emeritus trinityroyal http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/yeesh-difficult-child-suspended-work-again-54181/ My definition of progress .... update on us http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/my-definition-progress-update-us-54180-new/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:49:32 GMT If you remember from a thread of mine a few months ago, gfg1 had asked if he would have to take meds for the rest of his life. We talked about... If you remember from a thread of mine a few months ago, gfg1 had asked if he would have to take meds for the rest of his life. We talked about "experimenting" during the summer when demands were much lower. We talked it over with the pdoc and she recommended we start with dropping the afternoon dose of his Strattera and leaving everything else the same. We ALL agreed that the bedtime meds are a necessity, at least for now, and should be left alone. Pdoc explained to gfg1 that we can always start taking it again if need be and that we can always try decreasing it again as he gets older.

He tried going without for about 3 weeks. At that point, he had become crabbier and complained about most everything. No meltdowns, just irritable and intolerant. When I mentioned it to him and pointed out some examples as they were happening, he realized it too. We started the afternoon dose back up without any complaints whatsoever. He's back to "normal" and is remaining med compliant, even remembering to take his pill with him if he's going to be away from home and setting his phone alarm to remind him to take it.

As for previous threads about gfg2 and his attitude, he has matured some too. He's working at his jobs (one 30 hrs/wk paid and one volunteer 2 evenings a week). He's finally made some friends and has gotten involved in a local youth group that he hates missing. He's really blossoming. Now if we can get some of the hygiene issues to become more of a habit instead of "pouting" when I make him take care of his face (acne) and blow his nose (allergies).

My life is so much better this summer that I'm actually enjoying being around my boys. I know, school will return in 2 months but hey, I'll take what I can get and right now, I'm getting a vacation of sorts.

Thank you all for being here. I would never have made it this far with my family intact without you. ]]> General Parenting TeDo http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/my-definition-progress-update-us-54180/ Social Media. Grrr! http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/social-media-grrr-54179-new/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:01:53 GMT We have an ongoing battle with Paris over appropriate media usage. It's almost comical the lengths she goes to in an attempt to circumvent our rules. Poor girl is never getting a FB because she won't behave herself long enough to earn one. Good grief.

About a month ago, I showed her a news article regarding two young adult gfg's who were murdered. The pictures of the deceased were pulled off social media and none were photos you would want the world to remember you by. I thought it was a pretty memorable lesson. Apparently my daughter learned nothing from it...

Yup, that's right, my daughter doesn't even have her own account(s) and still manages to behave inappropriately online. She is gifted. :proudmom: ]]> General Parenting EndangeredCheerleader http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f6/social-media-grrr-54179/ A ittle vent http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/ittle-vent-54178-new/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:02:39 GMT Haven't posted about my gfg in a long time. She is 24, adopted and has bipolar disorder...which started when she was a toddler! She was dx'd around 6 years of age. Anyway....things have basically been the same. Not as difficult as what many of you are experiencing. I know things could be worse.

(Bottom line: I suspended her phone service....finally get to the point at the bottom! LOL!)

Background:
She moves OFTEN...like every six weeks on average. Sometimes she gets evicted, but in recent times, it is for other bizarre reasons (an improvement...I dunno).

About six months ago something happened that I don't want to go into...but it was very upsetting. She got involved with some really creepy guys that fooled her and did something bad, yet she was the only one who got into trouble. The only good thing that came out of it is she agreed to go back to her therapist and has been going regularly.

She just moved (what a surprise!). She claimed the new neighbor invited her to dinner, but then kept on inviting her. Later, the lady asked for money to compensate for how much she ate. So, gfg gave her groceries from her food stamps to compensate. Then, very quickly she was out of food money. She made up all sorts of stories, before she came up with this story...which also might be a lie.

DH and I sometimes give her a food card the last week of the month and ask her to have her food stamp money last for at least three weeks each month. She gets very little FS Money and has a big appetite. I think it is very generous of us. For the longest time, she never made it the three weeks, but actually lately...she was doing ok with that. Then...this happened and she came up short fast.

So, DH and I went shopping and spent a very reasonable amount on food and got GFG a week's worth of groceries and kept the receipt and sat down with her and showed her how you can, when careful, only spend x a week on a week's worth of groceries. But, two days later....she said she owed another neighbor two boxes of sausages and wanted us to buy them for her. WTH. So, we said "no way."

Weird stuff going on...
Sunday was father's day. DH does a lot for gfg. She did not send a text to DH. She did call. But, no attempt to get him a card, etc. We took her to dinner and she was a little rude and very demanding of DH. I told her on Father's Day you should be respectful and accommodating. DH had a heart attack last year and she could give a rat's axx. Anyway, at least, she calmed down after that. She insisted he take her shopping because "after all," she had a job to start.

So, she started a PT job as a dishwasher yesterday. Seemed legit. So, she asked DH to take her to kmart to buy some things for the job...special non skid shoes and a few things like razors. Well, she lasted on the job 3 hours. She called me screaming saying that it was too hard. That her back and feet hurt, etc. Then, she went to kmart and returned some of those things and took the cash and bought candy and cigarettes. How do I know? I get a receipt in my email. I called her and she lied and lied about it.

I know for a fact she was at the therapist two weeks ago, but I started thinking that perhaps she decided to stop going (just a hunch).So, I texted her and simply asked "Are you still going to the therapist and when is your next appointment?" She did not respond. I texted again. Eventually I said that since we pay for your phone and I'm just asking a simple question, I think you should respond.
DH called her and asked her what was going on. She said that she told him when she was going next to the therapist and therefore she doesn't have to tell mom. He said he forgot and that mom (me) had no bad intentions asking the question, so it was rude to not respond. She said that I might call the therapist. DH said that I wouldn't. I haven't done that since she was a child. So, I texted her and said that I would NOT call the therapist. But, I was concerned about her and expected her to be polite and text back. She refused both DH and myself. A bizarre and stupid power play.

In fact, she rarely responds to my texts. So, then we said that we might suspend her phone for at least a few days if she doesn't answer my text and gave her about 25 minutes. She did not respond. We suspended her phone until further notice.

DH says that he is fairly sure she has someone living with her AGAIN. Likely a homeless or down and out person AGAIN. And this is why she has no food AGAIN. She had stopped doing this as well...but there are signs she might be doing it again. Sigh.

We are going out of town at the end of the month and I'm a little scared. How desperate might she become???

Well, honestly, I WILL CALM DOWN. I ALWAYS DO. I TRY NOT TO LET MYSELF STAY UPSET FOR MORE THAN 30 MINUTES. I can't afford it physically, emotionally or spiritually.

Got NO idea when I might reinstate her phone, etc. We manage her Disability money for her and help her out here and there (very limited) + pay for the phone! Don't know if I did the right thing (suspending the phone) but she seems to have no clue about cause and effect. Just hope I did the right thing....but again, no clue when I should reinstate her phone! ??? As we all know, the phone is sort of a lifeline. She must be with someone who has a phone?

Thank you for listening. I have days I find gfg VERY frustrating, sad, hopeless... ]]> Parent Emeritus Nomad http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/ittle-vent-54178/ <![CDATA["I don't know how to tell you this..."]]> http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/i-dont-know-how-tell-you-54177-new/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:52:25 GMT or some variation thereof. I understand that my father is dying. My childhood babysitter wrote an email to tell me, although I had also heard through... or some variation thereof. I understand that my father is dying. My childhood babysitter wrote an email to tell me, although I had also heard through the grapevine that he was unwell. These conversations always start with, "I wasn't sure if you knew..." "I don't know how to tell you..." "I thought you'd want to know..."

Thank god the majority of them are taking place by email where my expressionless face doesn't make matters worse. (I have a "blank mask" from my MD unless I am being very animated. I don't fake expressions at all.) And so, it's "Thank you for letting me know, I had heard rumors..." Of course nothing from family. I grieved the loss of my parents over a decade ago. I'm glad that I don't have to be there to be inspected for "appropriate reactions of grief". I'm sure that I would be poked and prodded if I didn't respond appropriately and we all know how much I like that.

There was a cheap airfare to PDX and I actually booked just to see friends and hang out the week around Labor Day. I hate to say this, but I hope that's all over and done with by then. It would be boorish of me to be in town and actually not participate in some way in the rituals. I hope this doesn't sound awful, but it will be a relief when they are gone to everyone else as they are to me, and I will no longer be expected to somehow repair this broken thing. ]]> Parent Emeritus witzend http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f18/i-dont-know-how-tell-you-54177/