I don't wan to name parties or political people in this thread, but is anyone else, like me, beginning to think NOBODY can help?
I don't wan to name parties or political people in this thread, but is anyone else, like me, beginning to think NOBODY can help?
Me, over 21, mood disorder spectrum/BPD--doing well (paroxotene,clonazapan)
Hub over 21, good hub, great father
SportsFan#1 33 severe anxiety/OCD, Xanax, CR
PastryChef#26 ex-drug addict, turned her life around, bought home with bf, good job
Sonic 18 ASD, adopted at age 2, super kid, needs ongoing life assitance
Jumper 15, ADD, struggles with school work, great athlete, great kid
Dogs: Cockapoo, Cocker, Lab mix, Shichi
three cats
I think the economy is slowly getting better but that it will be a long while until it is a stable and good economy again. I think a lot of the trouble is the growing pains with transitioning to a global economy. And because of that; I don't think any US politician or policy can be a panacea. But what do I know?
Seems to me - democrat or republican, majority or minority congress- the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Me-44:happily married for 21+ yrs, learning to detach
DH-48:great dad-love of my life
GFG-son 20 pothead+ & college dropout. Estranged. Thinks we are the problem. Lies, manipulates, calculates. Moved back to college town rather than get help. Miss him so but no longer the sweet boy we raised. Broke my heart.
PC17 son: great kid, hard worker, old soul. HS senior with a bright future.
PC15 son: a delight-1 foot in boyhood & another in adulthood, gawky HS Freshman
Rome didn't fall in a day... I think it's looking up, but it's a small up, not like after WWII.
Me - 39, situational depression
DH - 42, depression, PTSD... Disabled Vet
Raven - 19M, PC, lives with bio mom
Onyxx - 17F, depression, PTSD, bipolar, stomach issues
Jett - 13M, ADD/LD/FAS (?!), typical teen with MONSTER sprinkles - UGH
Beanie Baby - due October 2012!
Possum, Squirrel & Bubbles - LOLCats and LOLDog
I dunno, MWM. My family is part of a dying breed... the middle class. While I can see that things are definitely precarious for the economy as a whole, I've seen some subtle shifts in the last few months. Namely, tv and newspaper ads for more expensive or more durable items like cars, appliances and furniture. People are slowly starting to go on vacation and out to dinner again. I've been receiving numerous direct marketing mailings daily. Most of this came to a pretty sudden stop in 2008 when the economy tanked. I believe, too, that the real struggle has been to put the brakes on job loss and start forward momentum. I casually follow the stock market (read that as not enough to make myself nuts) and I believe the issue there has primarily been that investors were spooked. But I slowly see that turning around as investors have decided to stay in and make some money.
Now, that is the perspective of a middle class housewife that works part time, lives within her means and has health insurance. Others, I'm sure, that are working class, working poor or disabled must have an entirely different view. It's scary being a paycheck or two from losing your home, not being able to feed your family or pay for medical care. It's truly become a tale of two cities (or two economies?) where the forces of the market allow some to stay safely afloat while others are cast into poverty.
-TM
GFG: "Duckie" beautiful 11 yr old. Infant reflux until 14 mos, demanding & difficult. 5th grader Sept 2011. Swimmer, Dancer, Actress & Jr Girl Scout. Violist. Singer. Allergic personality. SPD. Carries an epipen. Asthma.
"Neighbors bring food with death, and flowers with sickness, and little things in between. Boo was our neighbor. He gave us two soap dolls, a broken watch and chain, a knife, and our lives."
Scout, To Kill A Mockingbird
They all talk about more jobs available and ways to help people find jobs and tax breaks, etc but NONE of it is reaching the small rural communities. NOTHING has changed since 2008 except MORE houses being forclosed on and MORE businesses closing up shop. Our once thriving town of 5000 is dying and it is painful to watch. Even our McDonalds isn't hiring....they don't have enough business to require more employees and the ones that ARE there aren't going anywhere until they're hauled out in a body bag. It's sad. So yes, MWM, I do agree with you.
Me - single SAHM, prev hx of depression & anxiety, probably PDD/Aspie??
GFG1 - ADHD, Asperger's, Anxiety Disorder-NOS, PTSD, Sensory Processing Dysfunction, Strattera, Tenex
GFG2 - gifted, PDD-NOS, Adjustment Disorder, no meds
Ex - not in picture, schizoeffective, ADHD, bipolar
Economics isnt a particularly political thing however our economy tends to cycle on 8 to 12 year cycle. Sometimes even longer. Considering we are now considered a world economy, that cycle can be even more delicate. As far as our political system goes, it really has very little to do with who is in the White House but more to do with who is in charge of Congress. Bills get caught up there for years and that is where our laws are made or taken away.
One of my favorite classes was macro-economics and it is fascinating to see how just one decision made somewhere can have changes in such a long line. Such as your paycheck isnt just a paycheck to you...it basically quadruples in size as you spend it. Now if you save it in the cookie jar you do the economy absolutely no good...lol. But if you take a $100 to Walmart and spend it, that gives Walmart the money to pay employees and buy goods which means those employees spend money and more goods are made which mean those people who are making the goods are employed and being paid which means they are spending money...and so on and so on!
I loved that stuff!
So yes...I think the economy will turn around because we are all spending money still and someone is making the products and it is never going to just flop.
Janet, 49,BP, BPD, Arthritis,degenerative disc disease, Anxiety, Fibro,lamictal, topamax, & xanaxER, Ambien
Tony,49, Partner of 28 years
Oldest Son (B) 30 M Aspie-lite
Middle Son (J) 27. ADHD Success Story, works with the sheriffs dept now
Youngest son (C) 25, TDD. Severe ADHD Impulsive type
4 Grandchildren Keyana born 6/6/06, Hailie born 7/15/07, Mikey born 9/29/09 and McKenzie (Mickey) born 9/28/11.
A year ago, Hubby was out of work and on extended unemployment. For us, things are looking up, comparatively. As far as the country, I think things are improving slowly, and I don't think it matters who's in office.
Cast of Characters:
Me (Mary) - 49, stressed, overweight, Effexor XR, Metformin
DH - 51, ADD, Ritalin, married 12 years
GFG (Miss KT) - 20, ADHD/ODD, Ritalin, college senior!
Son #1 - 30, electrician
Son #2 - 28, computer guru, married to K, toddler Maddie
Buddy - Jack Russell
3 senior cats & 3 naughty toy panthers
2 bunnies - Apolo Rabbit Ohno and Niamh
"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand." Randy Pausch, The Last Lecture
I sure hope so MWM ! In my area a huge refinery just closed leaving hundreds without jobs.
Businesses that have been around for 20 years are shutting their doors and real estate buying and selling is just non existant.
I was just having this conversation with my brother and and I have to admit I am worried.
DH and I own a small business and we are seeing a definite decrease in sales the past few months ...
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Me 44 mother of two, happy go lucky with some stress and anxiety added to the mix ...
DH 44 hard working, sweet and loving man, my rock !
GFG 11 ADHD Vyvanse 30mg, stubborn, loopy, gaming freak, starting to make positive strides and showing signs of maturing (please don't let me jinx myself)
PC 8 great girl, awesome student, sweet, kind and helpful, all around great kid !
I have been unemployed since May and unemployment ran out in August.....no more extensions....so now, when they talk about unemployment being on the way down, they are talking about the number of people that are RECEIVING unemployment. People like me don't even count anymore....and there are a LOT of us where I live.
Me - single SAHM, prev hx of depression & anxiety, probably PDD/Aspie??
GFG1 - ADHD, Asperger's, Anxiety Disorder-NOS, PTSD, Sensory Processing Dysfunction, Strattera, Tenex
GFG2 - gifted, PDD-NOS, Adjustment Disorder, no meds
Ex - not in picture, schizoeffective, ADHD, bipolar
The unemployment numbers are a scam. You cannot tell a thing by those numbers. It is true that those numbers only count those who receive unemployment, not those who are underemployed, who no longer receive unemployment, who were turned down for unemployment, who never applied for unemployment, who cant work, etc.
Janet, 49,BP, BPD, Arthritis,degenerative disc disease, Anxiety, Fibro,lamictal, topamax, & xanaxER, Ambien
Tony,49, Partner of 28 years
Oldest Son (B) 30 M Aspie-lite
Middle Son (J) 27. ADHD Success Story, works with the sheriffs dept now
Youngest son (C) 25, TDD. Severe ADHD Impulsive type
4 Grandchildren Keyana born 6/6/06, Hailie born 7/15/07, Mikey born 9/29/09 and McKenzie (Mickey) born 9/28/11.
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