Need advice: "can I just smoke a little?"

[enzo]

GFG is trying to comply with our rules, and has been mostly good at home. Problem is that his positive peers are now smoking pot instead of drinking.(runaway pot use was Gfg's downfall earlier this year). Positive peers are all responsible achievers who can be responsible the next day...gfg wants to know why he cant be trusted to "use socially" in moderation.

we've told him that smoking pot is against the rules of the house, and he needs to accept that and figure out how best to deal with it.

We do think (cautiously) that our intervention caught him before he went too far down the road, and the depressive catalyst has passed, but we know the "demon" is just sleeping.

Does anyone have a similar experience where pot use was moderate and under control after intervention? Or do we need to stay tough and hold the line...

[AmericanGirl]

As a parent, I could not condone this, especially in my home. Even more so, with someone who has experienced mental health issues and/or addiction in the past.

My son has asked me repeatedly why I can drink and not become an alcoholic (I do not drink in front of him nor do I keep alcohol in my home whenever he is here). My answer is that I didn't get the gene and he did. I know it is hard, especially at a young age, to think, "I can NEVER do something again." But, my reading in recovery hasn't ever run across a reputable treatment protocol which says you can imbibe in moderation.

Besides, and even more basic, I never understood how I could tell my child it was okay to break some laws and not others.

As always, just my two cents...

[Calamity Jane]

Hi Enzo,
I believe you have to stay tough and hold the line, esp. because your son is 16 and still a minor. In our experience, once pot use became a huge issue (grades affected, disruption and chaos in home, other drugs experimented with, etc.) it was clear that our son cannot "casually" use pot or any other kinds of substances without his whole world falling in on him.
Our son had to experience losing everything he valued before he came to this realization, and he's only 18. He is home from freshman yr. of college, and spends most of his time alone or with our immediate family because EVERYONE he hangs out with is home for summer, and is either drinking or using drugs recreationally. Our son goes to therapy once a week, and has also passed all the drug tests we've given so far, but let me tell you, it's a daily struggle. When he returns to school in the fall, he will have no one but his peers, who all use "casually" and otherwise, and it will be a challenge, not just in the fall, but for the rest of his life.
He is trying so hard to be good, but he is in self imposed exile right now to stay away from temptation. He knows he cannot live here, or even function normally if he continues to use. The dilemma is who can he socialize with if everyone is doing it? He has to get a handle on that.

[StepTo2]

You have to stay tough, no matter how hard it is.

I am an anomaly - I did get the gene for alcoholism. I canNOT stop past a certain point and will just go on and on. So my solution was to never go that far. As a child I remember my Dad rolling his car. He was drunk. I wasn't told he was drunk, but somewhere inside I think I knew... I just don't put myself in that position. (I have a couple of times, and it was not pretty the next morning.) My limit? One or two beers, or one or two glasses of wine - or HALF a cocktail. I know what will happen - so I don't go there.

BUT - it would be oh so easy for me to do it. TOO easy. (I tend to get hooked on whatever - tobacco, relationships - someone called it an "addictive personality" and it's true for me.)

I had a friend. A recovering addict. He could not touch even NA beer. And somewhere along the line he convinced himself he could handle it. I haven't seen/spoken to him in 12+ years - and I'm pretty sure it's because he's no longer with us.

[welcometowitsend]

Based on your GFG's diagnosis I would say absolutely not. He has ADHD which makes him impulsive and less likely to control 'urges' and he's had past depression. He has already abused and I believe would go right back to abusing again. I just had a conversation yesterday with a therapist and your GFG description sounds like my GFG and he said that kids like my GFG are very likely to start self medicating.

Hold your ground - but explain the medical side of this to him. If he is in a good place right now then he should be able to understand the reasoning behind what he can and can't do.

My nephew suffered from an autoimmune disorder as a teenager - his doctors told him that he could not drink - not even one drink - the medications he was on and alcohol would destroy his liver. So, there was a medical reason for him to abstain and he understood it. Can you treat this like that with your GFG? Get him to understand his medical diagnosis and how it would be a bad combination with drugs or alcohol.

[toughlovin]

Hi Enzo, Given that your son was already on the runaway pot train I suspect that he cannot now use moderately. I know when this came up with our son (and still does actually) I tell him that yes some people can use moderately but I don't believe you are one of them. Some people can and can still live productive lives and some can't. It has already taken you down a road and shows that you can't. Unfortunately you don't really have control over whether he smokes pot or not, and he may try to see if he can do it "once in a while". I definitely would not condone it or allow it but we all know he may do it anyways.... so I don't think you need to become the pot police but I do think you have to continue to keep an eye on his behavior and how he is doing with the rules in general. If he starts to get really off track then bring up the pot discussion again. I would keep your cool around the whole issue. And my son told me plenty of times that "other" parents allow it, that I was the "only" one who didnt... of course talking to the other parents blew that idea.

TL

[DaisyFace]

I don't think that's a "permission" you can grant:

You may use illegal drugs in our home as long as you do it in moderation.

Seems like an awfully slippery slope to me - and one you don't want to start sliding on! JMHO.

[InsaneCdn]

"can I just smoke a little?"

"Sure. You can smoke anything you like as long as it is legal."

(which is a way of saying yes and no at the same time!)

[Signorina]

Stay tough and toe the line. Yes, some people use pot socially and are ok with it. Your son was not. Furthermore, it's illegal. Finally, it stays in the system for 30+ days which means he will likely always test positive which could put you in jeopardy should he drive & get in an accident.

No means no. Every time we compromised with our son or gave him a second chance-we lowered the bar. It got so low, it eventually crushed us.
I know how hard you want to appear reasonable & likable and how weary you get when you're constantly enforcing rules. But that's his problem, not yours. If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. {{{hugs}}} I struggle with this A LOT.

[chloedancer]

In addition to everything stated, marijuana can increase anxiety and paranoid thinking.