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    Need tips for ED classroom

    I need some tips for evaluating an ED classroom for our gfg.

    Last month, we had an IEP meeting for gfg, after extensive testing by the school. He was declared ineligible for any services. No surprise there, even though everyone agrees he's got major issues. Totally ineffective plans for how we can prevent the next incident (usually whacking another kid, but also defies playground monitors), which then occurred in short order. When I was a kid, his behaviors would be the cause for parent-teacher conferences; however, for his last incident, they have slapped him with a five-day suspension and have us scheduled to go in Wednesday for a placement review. DH was told that gfg will be expelled or moved to an ED classroom. I think they really meant "moved from his current school" rather than "kicked out of school forever" but DH wasn't picky with the language. At any rate, it's not working where he is and his problems will not be less in another school.

    His psych agrees with us that he really needs an aide in the classroom, rather than being put into an ED classroom. Apparently, our school district likes to sweep up the "problem" kids into an ED classroom rather than assign aides and considers the ED classroom to be the least restrictive environment. I don't agree, but don't have an advocate yet. [Yes, we're getting one but can't pull it together before Wednesday.]

    Doc says we should check out the ED classroom before we agree to put gfg there; personally, I don't see a lot of options. These suspensions hurt us financially and do nothing positive for gfg; only the teacher benefits. At any rate, I'll send DH to look at the classroom, but have no idea what to be looking for. Can folks give me some tips on what is good or what should make us run for the hills? Thanks.
    Me: Just like my son. And like my father before me.
    DH: Scary bright; somewhat depressed. We don't just speak different languages; we have different alphabets.
    PC: 12 yrs old. Just like Daddy, but not depressed.
    GFG: 10 yrs old. School district declared him "within normal limits"; no one else would agree. Officially, Mood Disorder - NOS; acts like ODD. Lamictal is only thing that has worked; still trying other meds in combination.

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    Re: Need tips for ED classroom

    Evaluating an ED/BD classroom:

    (My personal opinion as a former ED/BD teacher and parent of two children in ED/BD placement.)

    1. How many children in a room? It should be no more than 15 with at least 1 staff per 5 kids.
    2. Are the staff CPI trained? (crisis prevention and intervention)
    3. In an average month, how many times are children physically restrained? (look for a very low number 3-4 times per classroom per month)
    4. Take a teacher report from one of your son's incidents and show them just her description of his behaviors (not her response) and see what their response would be.
    5. Ask to see their behavior system (point sheets? etc.)
    6. Ask if they have a standard BIP (its okay if they have a standard one as long as they are willing to modify for individual needs).
    7. Ask what certifications the teachers and paras have. (some special schools can have lower certification requirements than would be required in a public school).
    8. Ask to see the textbooks they use (they should be copyrighted in the last 10 years minimally).
    9. If the classroom is in a public school building, ask what mainstreaming is done. Ask if lunch/recess can be done without mainstream involvement if that is the main problem.

    Currently my 11-year old is in an outstanding ED classroom; my 15-year old is in a TDS for ED/BD and it is fine but doens't meet all of her needs. The teacher is 90% of the room so you would definetly want to meet him/her in advance of making a decision.
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    Re: Need tips for ED classroom

    JJJ:

    Thank you very much for your input. I am keeping your response in my "gfg file" for reference. Yes, one member of the placement committee did push the ED classroom concept, but the committee's ultimate decision was to move him to a regular classroom in another school. It's actually a better school, but with no supports in place, what are his odds of success? [No answer required; we all know it!] I felt much better having your list in my folder for guidance and I am definitely keeping it. I suspect I haven't heard the last of the ED classroom option. Again, thank you so much for your help.
    Me: Just like my son. And like my father before me.
    DH: Scary bright; somewhat depressed. We don't just speak different languages; we have different alphabets.
    PC: 12 yrs old. Just like Daddy, but not depressed.
    GFG: 10 yrs old. School district declared him "within normal limits"; no one else would agree. Officially, Mood Disorder - NOS; acts like ODD. Lamictal is only thing that has worked; still trying other meds in combination.

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    Re: Need tips for ED classroom

    They are giving you the run around big time. If ED is the answer, your gfg qualifies for an IEP.

    I hope you are documenting all this nonsense.

    To protect your child, send a letter via certified mail to evaluate for an IEP under fed regs. There are samples in the Sp Ed 101 Archives. The minute it hits the sd, your child is protected under Protection for Children Not Yet Eligible for Special Education. It's in the Archives also.

    Fax the letter also.

    You're going to have to walk softly but carry a BIG Stick!
    gfg: 16 yrs, m, ADHD dx 2000; Anxiety; APD, SID, motor apraxia dxd Spring 2002; Recep/Expr Lang impairments resulting in Reading Comp Disorder dx 9/2003. PTSD; dx 12/2004. PDD-NOS; dx 2/2005. MDE's (5/2005) team dx: ADHD, Adj Disorder w/Mixed Disturbance of Emotions and Conduct (PTSD, anxiety), LD-NOS (multi lang disorders). Adderall XR.
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    God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

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    Re: Need tips for ED classroom

    Forgot about your original question. lol

    try iep4u.com
    get input from gfg's medical and/or psychological professionals
    require highly qualified teachers and aides in the ED model
    gfg: 16 yrs, m, ADHD dx 2000; Anxiety; APD, SID, motor apraxia dxd Spring 2002; Recep/Expr Lang impairments resulting in Reading Comp Disorder dx 9/2003. PTSD; dx 12/2004. PDD-NOS; dx 2/2005. MDE's (5/2005) team dx: ADHD, Adj Disorder w/Mixed Disturbance of Emotions and Conduct (PTSD, anxiety), LD-NOS (multi lang disorders). Adderall XR.
    Me: aka Alisha Leigh, member since 5/2001

    God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

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