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    Re: Matt's new all time low

    I'm so sorry, Steely. Hugs and prayers going out.
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    Re: Matt's new all time low

    Quote Originally Posted by Dammit Janet View Post
    I hate to use the term of breaking them but in reality that is what has to happen. Its like training wild mustangs. Our kids cant run wild in society because there are rules out there that they have to comply with. It isnt the wild west anymore where they could go off and live off the land completely alone. They were born in the wrong time. I think years and years ago, our kids may have been able to just be themselves and be ok. They would have worked so hard tending a huge plot of land, they wouldnt have been in trouble. Or they would have been famous bank robbers...lol.
    Wow Janet...........I think about what Matt would be like 100 years ago all of the time. He would have been the warrior, the conquerer, the leader of the clan. Just like you said.
    Now I feel like he is being shoved into the world's box and he doesn't fit. Seriously I have never seen him break in these situations, and he has been in a lot of them. I guess a part of me is scared to see what will happen if he breaks. I fear he will lose a little part of his soul. I guess possibly I am over relating to him - because I have lost little pieces of my soul when I have been broken. However, I guess sometimes, I also don't believe in or trust our world of psychiatry.

    I do agree he is behaving just like a horrible, spoiled 2 year old - and something has to change.

    Suz yes stable is a place, isolated in the woods, where the kids get "stable". When "stable" they return to the main program.
    And yes, this all started when he was about to move to transition and then his birthday was looming...........his birthday always seems to start the downward spirals of the holidays & and the year. If only I could erase the countless Cmas I have spent in his downward tail spins.

    Thanks for the thoughts and prayers. I just can't think of anything else to do right now, except wait it out.........yet I know them confining him is making things worse.
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    Re: Matt's new all time low

    Steely...the problem is he has to learn to fit in or he will forever be in a box with someone else controlling him. He has to learn this. Maybe it will take a short stay in jail with real bars around him for him to realize he doesnt want those bars around him. I dont know. It appears that the fear of real jail time is what brought Cory up short. No amount of me lecturing or therapy or medication convinced him that society had rules. Tossing him in jail did. Of course, it is like teaching him the stove is hot. He needs reminders. Sigh.

    I hope Matt can learn this lesson without the real bars.
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    Re: Matt's new all time low

    I am so sorry. I am coming in late here.

    Stable is a place out in the woods where he is alone and raging/tantruming? WHO is he manipulating if he is out in the woods away from everyone? Or with just a couple or three staff people there?

    This is a major high stress time with all the holidays. Add in the progress to transition away from this place he was doing so well in and the resulting brew is very volatile.

    I question the sudden change though. Normally (if that exists with a gfg) a gfg does not go from transition to 5yo w/o some severe triggers.

    I just cannot help wondering if some kind of abuse is/was going on. It is an ugly thought. I hesitated to mention it. With the staff warning you not to take him away AND monitoring phone calls it just seems to me that they are covering things up. I would also assume all mail/packages from home are monitored also.

    There are many cases of abuse and cover up in the RTC business but not all are like this. Some are excellent but others are praised as "the solution" for our kiddos and then are abusive. There are many ways they can cover abuse, and monitoring calls/mail is just one way.

    I hope and pray that no abuse has happened and that it won't happen. I just think it is a possibility that needs to be evaluated.

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