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    Problems Taking Medicine

    Hi everyone, its been a while since I've posted. My 6 yo GFG is refusing to take his medicine. He is on 15 mg of Adderall XR. Since he wouldn't swallow the capsule we had been emptying it into a small spoonful of sugar free jello pudding or cinnamon applesauce (which his dr approved). But a few weeks ago he started giving us trouble and has gotten progressively worse. He has convinced himself that he tries to swallow the capsule he will choke to death (not sure where he got that idea but nonetheless that's what he thinks) and he says that taking it the other way is "yucky". Mainly because I think he keeps it in his mouth too long before swallowing it. I really don't know what else to do. Without medication he is an absolute bear and can't concentrate on anything. Anyone have any ideas? I would appreciate any help. Thanks so much!! Hugs and kisses to all.
    Me - 43 yrs old, married almost 10 years, work F/T as exec asst
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    GFG - 61/2 yrs old dx with ADHD/ODD May 2006 - Started Focalin XR 5mg but didn't help, tried Focalin XR 10 mg - didn't last long enough - now taking 15 mg Adderall XR - didn't last so now on 50mg Vyvanse.
    PC - 2 yrs old who is the most adorable creature on earth and praying he doesn't grow up like his older brother but definitely showing some signs. Terrible two's, ugh!!!

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    Re: Problems Taking Medicine

    Maureen, do you think he would agree to his medicine dumped into a spoonful of his favorite ice cream? That's how we give my daughter her Prozac. And she has terrible sensory issues around food. It works for us.
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    Re: Problems Taking Medicine

    Thanks for the suggestion. I can definitely try that although I have pretty much offered everything under the sun and he has refused it. I was trying to stay away from ice cream especially since he has to take it so early in the morning but I am getting desperate. I'll let you know if the ice cream works.
    Me - 43 yrs old, married almost 10 years, work F/T as exec asst
    DH - 41 yrs old - slowly admitting GFG has a problem
    GFG - 61/2 yrs old dx with ADHD/ODD May 2006 - Started Focalin XR 5mg but didn't help, tried Focalin XR 10 mg - didn't last long enough - now taking 15 mg Adderall XR - didn't last so now on 50mg Vyvanse.
    PC - 2 yrs old who is the most adorable creature on earth and praying he doesn't grow up like his older brother but definitely showing some signs. Terrible two's, ugh!!!

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    Re: Problems Taking Medicine

    We use such a small amount of ice cream in a tiny Dixie water cup that I don't think it's harmful, even on a daily basis.

    Good luck -- let us know how it goes.
    Me: Moderator in General Forum and SAHM who spends too much time in her minivan and in doctors' waiting rooms

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    December 2010 high school graduate from an RTC in Utah

    PC/GFG2 (aka A): 15 yo daughter, mood disorder, migraines, asthma/allergies, cortisol deficiency
    Meds: Lamictal, Lexapro, Seroquel, Deplin, Cortef

    PC/GFG3 (aka M): 12 yo daughter, anxiety with eating disorder/OCD tendencies
    Meds: Lamictal, Zyprexa, Remeron

    Zoo: cockapoo (Cal), guinea pig (Sugar)

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    Re: Problems Taking Medicine

    My kids will take almost anything in chocolate syrup. A teaspoon or less, put the sprinkles (or crushed up tablets if this comes up with fever meds at some time) on the syrup, stir w/a toothpick and have them lick the spoon clean. You may want to offer him a tiny dab more after, as a reward.

    OTOH, have you worked at all with the mini m&m's for swallowing? used gentlyover time this method works for many of us. My youngest learned to swallow pills by age 2. He is allergic to artificial sweeteners AND he has asthma. Most meds are sweetened with artif sweetener. We did the choc syrup very successfully for quite a while, but also did the other. I was afraid if he got sick he might not be able to take fever meds, or something else if he couldn't swallow.

    I suggest jelly, choc syrup, peanut butter, or whatever you can get to work. Is it possible to get a jelly he is not familiar with, like raspberry or blackberry? The one with the little seeds? He can get the grit and the taste, or just swallow it and have something nice to taste after? Tell him he can have his choice of 1 of 2 or 3 things to mix it in?

    It occurs to me that you won't get the yucky medicine taste gone no matter how much you mix with the meds. Instead, let him have 1/2 to 1 tsp choc syrup or jelly with the med, and a big spoonful after. Or a tiny ice cream cone, like one of the bluebell mini sandwiches or cones? I see them sometimes here. Then as you go you either cut the treat down to a second spoonful, or sub gradually more healthy things.

    The point is to reward what you want and let the worry about sugar inthe morning go for the short term. Now with our kids the short term may be longer than we want it to be, and we don't take the reward away, we just cut it down or very gradually change it to something healthier. At some point the mini m&m's will work to help him learn to swallow.

    If he is truly afraid, then you are not going to be able to talk him out of the choke-to-deathfear. You might be able to work with it by starting with a mini m&m frozen and cut in half. Show him how quickly a frozen mini m&m melts in his hand. And how small it is. Then try, when he is calm, to get him to swallow it. But be gentle.

    Good luck,

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    Re: Problems Taking Medicine

    I used to dump the Adderall-XR beads right onto a spoon and have JK swallow them mixed with nothing. Then he would get to eat a small treat that he picked out before he took the meds. Then we were not limited to liquidy type foods. Eventually he decided to try to swallow the capsule so he wouldn't have to taste the stuff inside. Now I can't get him to chew a chewable antibiotic - he just swallows it. He would much rather just skip the taste thing all together.

    GOOD LUCK - I remember how hard it was to get him to swallow a pill. Nothing you can do to make him do, just wait patiently until he is ready.
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    Re: Problems Taking Medicine

    Thanks everyone for your great suggestions. I tried the ice cream for the last two days and he has taken it without too much difficulty however he is still keeping it in his mouth way to long instead of swallowing it quickly. It's almost as if he is looking for the medicine?? I have also tried to get him to practice swallowing a pill with the mini M&M's so he could see that he won't choke but he refuses to try it. I guess he will just have to grow out of it. I can't use jelly or peanut butter because he doesn't eat those things - never has. I will definitely keep the chocolate syrup idea as a backup though. Thanks again - hopefully the ice cream will work for a while!
    Me - 43 yrs old, married almost 10 years, work F/T as exec asst
    DH - 41 yrs old - slowly admitting GFG has a problem
    GFG - 61/2 yrs old dx with ADHD/ODD May 2006 - Started Focalin XR 5mg but didn't help, tried Focalin XR 10 mg - didn't last long enough - now taking 15 mg Adderall XR - didn't last so now on 50mg Vyvanse.
    PC - 2 yrs old who is the most adorable creature on earth and praying he doesn't grow up like his older brother but definitely showing some signs. Terrible two's, ugh!!!

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    Re: Problems Taking Medicine

    I would be VERY surprised if the m&m thing worked now. The fear is lodged in his head and so at the forefront that having it work now seems illogical. But keep it in mind for the future.

    So what if he is holding it in his mouth too long? Is this your prob or his? If he looks for the med he will find it. He knows that is why he is getting the ice cream. If he gets a yucky taste he will have to live with it. You won't, LOL!!

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    Low-fat chocolate pudding! They get the calcium and you buy it in the individual servings. He takes one small bite, a slightly bigger bite with the pill and then gets to finish the pudding cup. Yogurt is good for it too!

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    Maureen,
    You'll want to mention this choking fear to your pdoc at your next visit. He may be starting to show some signs of anxiety.
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