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15 year old who is Passive Aggressive Antisocial traits and Conduct Disorder
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<blockquote data-quote="TerryJ2" data-source="post: 636322" data-attributes="member: 3419"><p>Welcome, Katherine61.</p><p>Wow. You are way out of your league.</p><p>Definitely, genetics, but on top of it, he was abused. What a sad, sad story.</p><p>The parroting sounds like autism.</p><p>The fire setting, urinating and animal torture sounds like sociopathy.</p><p>It's possible he has both.</p><p>However, early signs of schizophrenia often present just like you describe--the vacant stare, the inability to connect with other people. In fact, he sounds a bit like John Nash, the famous mathematician who won a Nobel. (The movie, A Beautiful Mind was about him, as well.)</p><p>You've got to find some way to give him consequences. Some way to create a give-to-get situation. "If you pick up all of your socks from your bedroom and put them in the washing machine and put in a 1/2 cup of soap, and turn on the washer, you can play video games for 1/2 hr." That kind of thing. Otherwise, no video games.</p><p>Since he apparently doesn't care if he hurts anyone, including you, you have to make a consequence for hurting you. If he hits you in the arm, you tell him "No video games for the rest of the day. You hit me in the arm."</p><p>When he says he doesn't understand what you are telling him, maybe he doesn't. He's got a zillion things going on inside his head and he needs to sort them out. You have to be detailed and very hands-on when you explain things to him.</p><p>How is he getting such good grades? HOW do the teachers teach him. WHY is it working? Is he on grade level? Above grade level? One-on-one? A whole room?</p><p>Talking? Reading? Figure out their technique and use it at home.</p><p></p><p>And don't both expecting him to say "I love you" and really mean it, the same way you do. Just take it one day at a time and completely lower your expectations.</p><p></p><p>Also, since he's already in therapy, I would do practice conversation sessions where he learns social skills and give-and-take conversations. It can be taught by rote.</p><p></p><p>I wonder where he will live when he's 18-21? Have you started looking for special homes for him?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryJ2, post: 636322, member: 3419"] Welcome, Katherine61. Wow. You are way out of your league. Definitely, genetics, but on top of it, he was abused. What a sad, sad story. The parroting sounds like autism. The fire setting, urinating and animal torture sounds like sociopathy. It's possible he has both. However, early signs of schizophrenia often present just like you describe--the vacant stare, the inability to connect with other people. In fact, he sounds a bit like John Nash, the famous mathematician who won a Nobel. (The movie, A Beautiful Mind was about him, as well.) You've got to find some way to give him consequences. Some way to create a give-to-get situation. "If you pick up all of your socks from your bedroom and put them in the washing machine and put in a 1/2 cup of soap, and turn on the washer, you can play video games for 1/2 hr." That kind of thing. Otherwise, no video games. Since he apparently doesn't care if he hurts anyone, including you, you have to make a consequence for hurting you. If he hits you in the arm, you tell him "No video games for the rest of the day. You hit me in the arm." When he says he doesn't understand what you are telling him, maybe he doesn't. He's got a zillion things going on inside his head and he needs to sort them out. You have to be detailed and very hands-on when you explain things to him. How is he getting such good grades? HOW do the teachers teach him. WHY is it working? Is he on grade level? Above grade level? One-on-one? A whole room? Talking? Reading? Figure out their technique and use it at home. And don't both expecting him to say "I love you" and really mean it, the same way you do. Just take it one day at a time and completely lower your expectations. Also, since he's already in therapy, I would do practice conversation sessions where he learns social skills and give-and-take conversations. It can be taught by rote. I wonder where he will live when he's 18-21? Have you started looking for special homes for him? [/QUOTE]
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