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Adult son back in jail for the nth time
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<blockquote data-quote="Sister's Keeper" data-source="post: 679621" data-attributes="member: 20051"><p>Confession...I have worked in the mental health field in crisis screening, I know from the inside how screwed up it is and all the legal loopholes you have to jump through to get the person, and keep the person, involuntarily committed. Since I am anonymous here, I will tell you that sometimes, as family, you need to outright lie. Unfortunately, you have to say they threatened to kill you or themselves. </p><p></p><p>Another issue is that beds for indigent, uninsured patients in decent treatment facilities are often in very short supply (worse when you are attempting to find substance abuse treatment) So, most patients who lack insurance end up in the government facilities, which, here, are very quickly disappearing, which only tend to house and medicate. </p><p></p><p>Not that medicating isn't the key, because I believe these illnesses are chemical, but patients also need to learn how to live with these illnesses, which you don't do when you are just handed Risperdal 3 times a day for a week and then released to a boarding home with a follow up at the clinic a month later.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, the system has it's hands tied. They cannot legally hold someone against their will if they are not actively suicidal or homicidal and they are capable of providing for their basic needs. They can be grossly psychotic and homeless, but if they can manage to find food and shelter, and are not intent on physically harming themselves or others there is nothing anyone can do.</p><p></p><p>Detached, I don't know how psychotic your son is or if his crime was one that he committed because of delusions. Does he become less psychotic when the meth is out of his system? Of course psychosis, mania, and amphetamines are a perfect storm. </p><p></p><p> I think appealing to the judge is a good idea. Will he have an in-person court date or will it be done via closed circuit?</p><p></p><p>Have you been in touch with his public defender? </p><p></p><p>The only 2 things I can suggest is get in touch with his P.D., if you can. If you can be present at the court date maybe you can appeal to the judge in person. Your son has major mental illness, you may also want to try seeing if you can get him evaluated for competency to proceed. If your son is deemed, because of mental illness, unable to aid in his own legal defense, they can order him into treatment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sister's Keeper, post: 679621, member: 20051"] Confession...I have worked in the mental health field in crisis screening, I know from the inside how screwed up it is and all the legal loopholes you have to jump through to get the person, and keep the person, involuntarily committed. Since I am anonymous here, I will tell you that sometimes, as family, you need to outright lie. Unfortunately, you have to say they threatened to kill you or themselves. Another issue is that beds for indigent, uninsured patients in decent treatment facilities are often in very short supply (worse when you are attempting to find substance abuse treatment) So, most patients who lack insurance end up in the government facilities, which, here, are very quickly disappearing, which only tend to house and medicate. Not that medicating isn't the key, because I believe these illnesses are chemical, but patients also need to learn how to live with these illnesses, which you don't do when you are just handed Risperdal 3 times a day for a week and then released to a boarding home with a follow up at the clinic a month later. Unfortunately, the system has it's hands tied. They cannot legally hold someone against their will if they are not actively suicidal or homicidal and they are capable of providing for their basic needs. They can be grossly psychotic and homeless, but if they can manage to find food and shelter, and are not intent on physically harming themselves or others there is nothing anyone can do. Detached, I don't know how psychotic your son is or if his crime was one that he committed because of delusions. Does he become less psychotic when the meth is out of his system? Of course psychosis, mania, and amphetamines are a perfect storm. I think appealing to the judge is a good idea. Will he have an in-person court date or will it be done via closed circuit? Have you been in touch with his public defender? The only 2 things I can suggest is get in touch with his P.D., if you can. If you can be present at the court date maybe you can appeal to the judge in person. Your son has major mental illness, you may also want to try seeing if you can get him evaluated for competency to proceed. If your son is deemed, because of mental illness, unable to aid in his own legal defense, they can order him into treatment. [/QUOTE]
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