My son is being very difficult daily. He is under a court order to follow rules of home, community and school and is failing to follow those rules. He fights every request and demand to help around the house, pick up his things, follow rules that everyone else follows. He ignores some rules or claims to forget or states that we never told him. He is going to be quite surprised when he is removed. WE have been told that Children's services will not grant a 30 day voluntary surrender of custody. I believe I am going to have to push this. WE had him removed once before when he was younger (12), he was gone for 30 days and we then had to fight to get him back. If he goes to temporary custody he will enter the foster care system at 17. The court date for the unruly child charges is Nov 20. Can Children's services deny our 30 day voluntary surrender? I am at a loss as to what to do next. Our home is a mess (figuratively and literally) due to the chaos caused by him and his lifestyle/refusal. My husband is not coping well and I continue to fight the good fight.