I mean, if my child had cancer and I was fighting for life-saving surgery, my answer would be NEVER - a parent should NEVER GIVE UP. And if that was the case and you fought the good fight and got your child that treatment, the whole family would be weeping with new hope and gratitude. You would be so grateful to your higher power and feel so proud that you had saved your child....even if you had suffered tremendous personal and/or financial hardships. But with a difficult child....whatever treatment I earn by fighting tooth-and-nail for is likely to earn me resentment, threats and "F.U. Mom!" I would question myself endlessly...wondering whether I had done the right thing...and forever wonder whether the outcome was worth the cost to my own well-being. Right now, I am pretty well out of options for difficult child's treatment. The state's CYA policies are "air-tight"....with one agency passing the buck to another so that nobody is responsible or accountable. I am tired of the stupid. Because Idiot Caseworker is leaving, the team needs to have a meeting to discuss treatment goals - AGAIN. Didn't we just have a bunch of meetings to discuss goals? Yes - but now we might need new goals. And what makes absolutely no sense to me is that regardless of the goals, the services offered remain the same. Still a behavior person and maybe some Integrated Listening Systems (ILS). Although Idiot Caseworker says they *might* be able to get us some parenting classes. Great! (NOT!) When is it OK to quit?