Hello all it's been awhile since I've posted and I'm not sure if any of you will remember me. Just back looking for some advise from those more expirenced. Well here we go... difficult child is 18, on drugs (not sure what), alcohol, stealing from us and has been put out of the house. He came home from the boys ranch in Nov 07, started school, quit in Feb 08 (just stopped going), has had 3 jobs since May (#1 quit after 1 day, #2 quit after 3 days,#3 walked out after 1 1/2 months because someone made him mad) In the last few months he has stolen numerous items from the house. The things we know of are---a number of nascar items totally about $600 to $700, 3 of his little brothers MP3 players, his little brothers school shoes after breaking the lock on our bedroom door, some of his older brothers clothes. There are probably many more things but I can't remember them all. This past Sunday after we discovered he broke into our bedroom and found the shoes gone his older brother confronted him and we had the biggest blow up ever. My oldest I guess just couldn't take it anymore and a fight broke out. difficult child denied taking anything, but he is the only one who could have. He is lying constantly!!! He lies to my face when I've already checked things out before hand. And when I catch him his lies he gets mad because he can't think fast enough to save himself. I've told him he cannot live here anymore and put his things out on the porch. I have not seen him or talked to him in a week. I believe he is staying at a "friends" uncles house. This is the same friend he knows is bad news but can't stay away from. My question, how do you help someone who won't help himself???? Sorry this is so long and I hope someone can give me some advise. thank you for any help.