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<blockquote data-quote="Scent of Cedar *" data-source="post: 656482" data-attributes="member: 17461"><p>I don't understand it either. But he must have dreamed it, must have wished so fervently to be female, all of his life.</p><p></p><p>Here is something for us all to think about, maybe: What is it that our knowledge of a healthy male transforming himself into an elderly female tells us about our own role, about the mystique of female, itself?</p><p></p><p>I learned that marriage was something sacred when I watched same sex couples battle the system we all have created to claim the blessing of legitimacy in their marriages. Here is an interesting thing: I have male friends who married after a thirty year relationship, and I champion and celebrate their happiness, that sense of legitimacy in relationship they now feel and can fight for and claim. <em>But I have no female gay friends; I know no female couple who has been together for thirty years and then, married.</em></p><p></p><p>Mysogyny, (another word I a going to have to look up to be sure I am spelling correctly if I am going to keep using it ~ and it certainly has been showing up in my writing alot, lately) in my woman's heart; a certain kind of hatred, a certain delegitimacy, for women who are not like me.</p><p></p><p>So, it's the same thing with Bruce Jenner, I think.</p><p></p><p>What is it that we can learn from understanding that, though we believe ourselves to be old, though we mourn our gone girl beauty and etc ~ there are men out there who will take being female, bona fide female, even elderly (and therefore perceived as less than) female ~ at any cost and whatever the terms.</p><p></p><p>What can this tell us about our own, female, value?</p><p></p><p>I love this post. I did not know that is how I felt about Bruce Jenner.</p><p></p><p>Cedar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scent of Cedar *, post: 656482, member: 17461"] I don't understand it either. But he must have dreamed it, must have wished so fervently to be female, all of his life. Here is something for us all to think about, maybe: What is it that our knowledge of a healthy male transforming himself into an elderly female tells us about our own role, about the mystique of female, itself? I learned that marriage was something sacred when I watched same sex couples battle the system we all have created to claim the blessing of legitimacy in their marriages. Here is an interesting thing: I have male friends who married after a thirty year relationship, and I champion and celebrate their happiness, that sense of legitimacy in relationship they now feel and can fight for and claim. [I]But I have no female gay friends; I know no female couple who has been together for thirty years and then, married.[/I] Mysogyny, (another word I a going to have to look up to be sure I am spelling correctly if I am going to keep using it ~ and it certainly has been showing up in my writing alot, lately) in my woman's heart; a certain kind of hatred, a certain delegitimacy, for women who are not like me. So, it's the same thing with Bruce Jenner, I think. What is it that we can learn from understanding that, though we believe ourselves to be old, though we mourn our gone girl beauty and etc ~ there are men out there who will take being female, bona fide female, even elderly (and therefore perceived as less than) female ~ at any cost and whatever the terms. What can this tell us about our own, female, value? I love this post. I did not know that is how I felt about Bruce Jenner. Cedar [/QUOTE]
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