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<blockquote data-quote="Littleboylost" data-source="post: 722026" data-attributes="member: 21895"><p>This is where I feel the pool truly devides. There are dependent people and alcoholics or addicts. </p><p></p><p>When someone has been dependent on a substance and says it was starting to have negative effects on me. I just stopped or I cut way back it was no problem for me. </p><p></p><p>This is someone who was dependent and abusing a substance. Not an addiction per se. </p><p></p><p>Addiction is lack of self control as in drinking to excess with no control. Dragging eith no control to stop. </p><p></p><p>I like the 4 Cs of addiction as the best definition. </p><p></p><p>simple way of describing addiction is the presence of the 4 Cs:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>c</strong>raving</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">loss of <strong>c</strong>ontrol of amount or frequency of use </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>c</strong>ompulsion to use</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">use despite <strong>c</strong>onsequences.</li> </ul><p>This could be substance, or any other addiction Gambling, Porrn....</p><p></p><p>It is the use despite consequences that creates rhe true final factor in addiction. People who were dependent and stopped could control the craving, the compulsion, keep use under control and due to negative consequences stopped or reduced their use. Addicts can not do this, not in. Their own. Their illness prevents them from being able to manage to control any use of their doctor or other vice. </p><p></p><p>This is what makes me so very angery when people say why don’t they just stop. Often attached to a story of “someone” they know who did his that, simply stopped. </p><p></p><p>This is why harm reduction may work for a dependent person and will never work for the addict. There is no sick thing as just a little for an addict. They can not control their compulsion or craving. </p><p></p><p>CB the indication that your son drinks and was pouring and drinking wine like water this is very telling. Not drinking to be social or savor the palate of the wine. Just driven to consume. </p><p></p><p>Screw the family no one has a right to Judge him or put. If he had diabetes and had a diabetic episode would they be judgy then?? It’s a disease. A very unfortunate one that people lack compassion and understanding for. </p><p></p><p>Remember we see it and it breaks our hearts. We Don’t cause it, we can’t cure it and we can not control it. </p><p></p><p>I wish you had a better time at the wedding.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Littleboylost, post: 722026, member: 21895"] This is where I feel the pool truly devides. There are dependent people and alcoholics or addicts. When someone has been dependent on a substance and says it was starting to have negative effects on me. I just stopped or I cut way back it was no problem for me. This is someone who was dependent and abusing a substance. Not an addiction per se. Addiction is lack of self control as in drinking to excess with no control. Dragging eith no control to stop. I like the 4 Cs of addiction as the best definition. simple way of describing addiction is the presence of the 4 Cs: [LIST] [*][B]c[/B]raving [*]loss of [B]c[/B]ontrol of amount or frequency of use [*][B]c[/B]ompulsion to use [*]use despite [B]c[/B]onsequences. [/LIST] This could be substance, or any other addiction Gambling, Porrn.... It is the use despite consequences that creates rhe true final factor in addiction. People who were dependent and stopped could control the craving, the compulsion, keep use under control and due to negative consequences stopped or reduced their use. Addicts can not do this, not in. Their own. Their illness prevents them from being able to manage to control any use of their doctor or other vice. This is what makes me so very angery when people say why don’t they just stop. Often attached to a story of “someone” they know who did his that, simply stopped. This is why harm reduction may work for a dependent person and will never work for the addict. There is no sick thing as just a little for an addict. They can not control their compulsion or craving. CB the indication that your son drinks and was pouring and drinking wine like water this is very telling. Not drinking to be social or savor the palate of the wine. Just driven to consume. Screw the family no one has a right to Judge him or put. If he had diabetes and had a diabetic episode would they be judgy then?? It’s a disease. A very unfortunate one that people lack compassion and understanding for. Remember we see it and it breaks our hearts. We Don’t cause it, we can’t cure it and we can not control it. I wish you had a better time at the wedding. [/QUOTE]
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