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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 722037" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I don't think that you truly grasp the definition of dependence vs addiction. Addiction is using without control. It is generally a psychological state and it has a physical component also. If you are addicted, you are unable to use the substance in any quantity. If you use the substance, you will use it to excess. There simply is no moderation. You are able to go without, but you are not able to use in moderation.</p><p></p><p>Dependence is often called physical dependence. That is when you use a substance to the point that you have physical symptoms if you don't use it, but you are not psychologically addicted to it. You require a certain amount of the substance to not have symptoms of withdrawal, but you don't have to use it until you are drunk/stoned. I am in pain management due to a number of health problems and an allergy to NSAIDS that is life threatening. I take the same amount of my medication every day. If I don't have my medication, I experience physical symptoms of withdrawal. I don't have to take all of the medication prescribed for a month in a single day the way an addict would. My ex sister in law is an addict. She managed to get doctors to prescribe pain medication at various times and her medication NEVER managed to last until the next time it was to be prescribed. Not even when my brother kept it locked in a safe in his vehicle when they were married. She would be out of medication in 2-3 days or less. Does that illustrate the difference?</p><p></p><p>Your son is an alcoholic. He cannot drink in moderation. I would not take him to events where there will be drinking if his behavior will embarrass you. Be honest about why you won't take him. The shame belongs to him, not to you. You should not take him with you to embarrass you, and you should let him know why. Many people go to AA meetings while they are drinking, some even while they are drunk. Hopefully they will become honest with themselves at some point and live by the program. That is up to them though. You cannot fix anyone but yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 722037, member: 1233"] I don't think that you truly grasp the definition of dependence vs addiction. Addiction is using without control. It is generally a psychological state and it has a physical component also. If you are addicted, you are unable to use the substance in any quantity. If you use the substance, you will use it to excess. There simply is no moderation. You are able to go without, but you are not able to use in moderation. Dependence is often called physical dependence. That is when you use a substance to the point that you have physical symptoms if you don't use it, but you are not psychologically addicted to it. You require a certain amount of the substance to not have symptoms of withdrawal, but you don't have to use it until you are drunk/stoned. I am in pain management due to a number of health problems and an allergy to NSAIDS that is life threatening. I take the same amount of my medication every day. If I don't have my medication, I experience physical symptoms of withdrawal. I don't have to take all of the medication prescribed for a month in a single day the way an addict would. My ex sister in law is an addict. She managed to get doctors to prescribe pain medication at various times and her medication NEVER managed to last until the next time it was to be prescribed. Not even when my brother kept it locked in a safe in his vehicle when they were married. She would be out of medication in 2-3 days or less. Does that illustrate the difference? Your son is an alcoholic. He cannot drink in moderation. I would not take him to events where there will be drinking if his behavior will embarrass you. Be honest about why you won't take him. The shame belongs to him, not to you. You should not take him with you to embarrass you, and you should let him know why. Many people go to AA meetings while they are drinking, some even while they are drunk. Hopefully they will become honest with themselves at some point and live by the program. That is up to them though. You cannot fix anyone but yourself. [/QUOTE]
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