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<blockquote data-quote="TerryJ2" data-source="post: 75759" data-attributes="member: 3419"><p>Interesting that one mom said it felt like a bee sting, but another guy said it was like being electrocuted. Neither one mentioned the voltage. I can't believe they tried the same thing.</p><p></p><p>Maybe it can help when drugs do not help. Eye gouging!? I'd be so upset, I'd probably try anything.</p><p></p><p>on the other hand, the article seems to be mixing apples and oranges, as did your response, Kjs. Your treatment seemed to be one or two strong jolts to get you out of depression. In this school, supposedly, they use a lesser voltage shock treatment as aversion therapy. That generally works on "healthy" people--but even that doesn't always work. Do you all remember the Stanley Milgram experiments? </p><p></p><p>Clearly, shock aversion won't work on those who don't respond to spanking, yelling, deprivation, or other forms of aversion, because the mental process that deals with-those behaviors isn't working properly. So I'd vote "no." </p><p></p><p>Drug therapy has been better studied. There's more $ in it. And it's not as scary to watch a loved one get groggy as it is to watch them being shocked.</p><p></p><p>I used Invisible Fencing on my two Borzoi, years ago. It was excellent. I, of course, tried it on myself, to make sure it was exactly what it claimed to be. It was a 9V battery. </p><p>Did it hurt? Yup! Did it work? Yup. But those were dogs. *Mentally healthy* dogs. </p><p></p><p>by the way, Kjs, didn't anyone interview you b4 you got your shock treatments for depression? Clearly, yours was situation based and that was the wrong treatment for it. (And as you know, it is very common to have continuing headaches forever after shock treatments. So sorry. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />) If I'd been your psychiatric, I would have written you a ticket for a lifelong Hawaiian vacation! :grin:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryJ2, post: 75759, member: 3419"] Interesting that one mom said it felt like a bee sting, but another guy said it was like being electrocuted. Neither one mentioned the voltage. I can't believe they tried the same thing. Maybe it can help when drugs do not help. Eye gouging!? I'd be so upset, I'd probably try anything. on the other hand, the article seems to be mixing apples and oranges, as did your response, Kjs. Your treatment seemed to be one or two strong jolts to get you out of depression. In this school, supposedly, they use a lesser voltage shock treatment as aversion therapy. That generally works on "healthy" people--but even that doesn't always work. Do you all remember the Stanley Milgram experiments? Clearly, shock aversion won't work on those who don't respond to spanking, yelling, deprivation, or other forms of aversion, because the mental process that deals with-those behaviors isn't working properly. So I'd vote "no." Drug therapy has been better studied. There's more $ in it. And it's not as scary to watch a loved one get groggy as it is to watch them being shocked. I used Invisible Fencing on my two Borzoi, years ago. It was excellent. I, of course, tried it on myself, to make sure it was exactly what it claimed to be. It was a 9V battery. Did it hurt? Yup! Did it work? Yup. But those were dogs. *Mentally healthy* dogs. by the way, Kjs, didn't anyone interview you b4 you got your shock treatments for depression? Clearly, yours was situation based and that was the wrong treatment for it. (And as you know, it is very common to have continuing headaches forever after shock treatments. So sorry. :() If I'd been your psychiatric, I would have written you a ticket for a lifelong Hawaiian vacation! [img]:grin:[/img] [/QUOTE]
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