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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 144916" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I just hit the wrong key and lost everything. Blast.</p><p></p><p>Congrats on losing the 7 lb for sure. Well done!</p><p></p><p>The breakfast sounds - interesting. I'll stick to my muesli. Have you tried muesli? You can eat it straight from the pack with milk, or cook it up with milk in the microwave, like porridge.</p><p></p><p>I have to make up another batch of my oat-free muesli in the morning, I have less than one serve left.</p><p></p><p>I was watching Oprah today, it was another show about dieting, they were talking about Body Mass Index.</p><p></p><p>I HATE the way doctors assume that BMI is the perfect yardstick by which they assess us all. And I hate the way the goalposts keep changing. I'm in trouble now, because I dieted too much when I was younger, often when I probably shouldn't have. And I made mental notes at the time of what triggered my compulsion to diet.</p><p></p><p>When I was 18 I had my appendix out. I'd been feeling sick for several months with a grumbling appendix, I'd not been eating much and was probably losing weight. When the nurse weighed me (for the anaesthetic dose) I was 62 Kg. She tutted, commented that I was heavy. So after my operation, I began my first diet. When I plug those figures into the charts in my CSIRO book, using the formula of your weight divided by the square of your height, I get a BMI of 23, which is in the normal range. "Normal" is BMI of 18.5 to 24.9. I WAS NOT OVERWEIGHT!</p><p></p><p>Then some years later, I was 26 and wanting to start a family. We had medicals at work, we were processed through like sausages. The doctor weighed me and I remember - I was 65 Kg. "Overweight," he told me. I shouldn't begin a family until I lost the weight, he said. Calculating now - BMI of 24.2. I WAS NOT OVERWEIGHT!</p><p></p><p>I did gain weight with each pregnancy but with an active job I managed to keep my weight down fairly well. Then I became ill and was unable to do the heavy physical work. I was also studying some more. In one of my lectures I remember being told that for calculation purposes, the average human male is assumed to weigh 70 Kg and to have 8 litres of blood in his body. I remember thinking I was getting a bit close to the 70 Kg, as a woman. That would have given me a BMI of 26 - just inside the overweight range, which is 25.0 to 29.9. I was now overweight, but after three kids and increasingly sedentary, it was understandable.</p><p></p><p>Then I got medically retired and found other activities. I did volunteer charity work. After 7 years I got pregnant again. This time I was not able to exercise. Other problems followed me. It was a difficult pregnancy. I had to find a way to get iron into me, when I couldn't take supplements and my levels were dropping. I ended up eating Milo, a kids drink supplement that contains iron in a form I could tolerate. I had to eat a cupful of this powder a day, to get the amount of iron I was supposed to have. But still the levels dropped. Finally the doctor put me in hospital on a drip to give me iron that way. I gave away my Milo tin the next day.</p><p></p><p>But Milo is loaded with sugar, and it put weight on me. After difficult child 3 was born, I dieted. I ate lots of muesli (with oats) and after a few months developed a problem with my health - the problem which later turned out to be due to the oats in the muesli.</p><p></p><p>I can't recall what I weighed, I think it was about 80 Kg. At about that time my liver test results were bad and I had to see a specialist. I know difficult child 3 was still in a stroller, so he was less than 18 months old. I know I didn't weigh more than 80 Kg then. The doctor told me that my liver tests were bad because of my weight, "you are extremely obese," he told me. I had to lose weight.</p><p>So, given my weight was 80 Kg at the time (I'm fairly sure it was less) - BMI calculates at 29. I WAS NOT OBESE! And certainly not EXTREMELY obese!</p><p></p><p>Since then my weight has been creeping up. For a while I would be able to hold it, but interestingly, it was when I tried to diet to lose weight that my weight would eventually climb higher than it had been. Not being able to exercise, in fact getting increasingly restricted in exercise, was a major factor.</p><p></p><p>I was on a low fat diet from before I had difficult child 3. I stayed on a low fat diet until less than four years ago, when I began the Atkins diet. I lost 10 Kg. But I had to really restrict my intake impossibly, and I found I couldn't do it and stay low-fat. After 10 months I stopped the diet - we were on holidays, it just was not possible. I gained the weight back in six months. And again, a little bit more.</p><p></p><p>Apart from times I try to diet with extreme food restriction (like now) my weight tends to be fairly stable, it has just crept up over the years. But I accept now, that at 97 Kg (as I was before this diet - the last 2 Kg had been a recent addition) I was now overweight.</p><p>Checking the BMI for me before this diet - BMI was 36. You are obese if your BMI is over 29.9. You are extremely obese if your BMI is over 39.9. </p><p>I WAS STILL NOT EXTREMELY OBESE!</p><p></p><p>I'm now 91 Kg. That's a BMI of 33. I'm getting there.</p><p></p><p>But to look at me - I don't look that big. I was visiting a friend this afternoon. True, she is shorter than me, but she is much bigger. Her clothes are loose on me. And she weighs about 70 Kg.</p><p></p><p>Maybe if I had not for years been dieting to lose the weight problem which in fact I did not have, I wouldn't have the weight problem, the insulin resistance and the liver problem I have now. I am angry. But I am trying to channel that anger into actively losing weight now.</p><p></p><p>The gastroenterologist (and all info I've been able to find online) says that to begin to decrease the fatty content of my liver, and to also begin to step back from diabetes Type II, even a few pounds weight lost can make a difference. I got the impression that I would need to have a BMI in the extremely obese range for him to prescribe the Reductil, but because of my liver being in dire straits he was able to bend the rules for me. He also said, "You're not big enough yet for me to recommend lap band surgery."</p><p></p><p>That horrified me. I doubt I'm a good risk for surgery anyway, but the thought that he would just wait until I WAS big enough, and then operate, has also given me the drive to lose weight now.</p><p></p><p>So, some pounds/kilos lost, more to go. Roll on the next seven!</p><p></p><p>Marg (pronounced as if you have just shortened my name, as in "Margaret" without the "-aret"). To pronounce it as "Marj" I'd spell it as "Marge". Does that help?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 144916, member: 1991"] I just hit the wrong key and lost everything. Blast. Congrats on losing the 7 lb for sure. Well done! The breakfast sounds - interesting. I'll stick to my muesli. Have you tried muesli? You can eat it straight from the pack with milk, or cook it up with milk in the microwave, like porridge. I have to make up another batch of my oat-free muesli in the morning, I have less than one serve left. I was watching Oprah today, it was another show about dieting, they were talking about Body Mass Index. I HATE the way doctors assume that BMI is the perfect yardstick by which they assess us all. And I hate the way the goalposts keep changing. I'm in trouble now, because I dieted too much when I was younger, often when I probably shouldn't have. And I made mental notes at the time of what triggered my compulsion to diet. When I was 18 I had my appendix out. I'd been feeling sick for several months with a grumbling appendix, I'd not been eating much and was probably losing weight. When the nurse weighed me (for the anaesthetic dose) I was 62 Kg. She tutted, commented that I was heavy. So after my operation, I began my first diet. When I plug those figures into the charts in my CSIRO book, using the formula of your weight divided by the square of your height, I get a BMI of 23, which is in the normal range. "Normal" is BMI of 18.5 to 24.9. I WAS NOT OVERWEIGHT! Then some years later, I was 26 and wanting to start a family. We had medicals at work, we were processed through like sausages. The doctor weighed me and I remember - I was 65 Kg. "Overweight," he told me. I shouldn't begin a family until I lost the weight, he said. Calculating now - BMI of 24.2. I WAS NOT OVERWEIGHT! I did gain weight with each pregnancy but with an active job I managed to keep my weight down fairly well. Then I became ill and was unable to do the heavy physical work. I was also studying some more. In one of my lectures I remember being told that for calculation purposes, the average human male is assumed to weigh 70 Kg and to have 8 litres of blood in his body. I remember thinking I was getting a bit close to the 70 Kg, as a woman. That would have given me a BMI of 26 - just inside the overweight range, which is 25.0 to 29.9. I was now overweight, but after three kids and increasingly sedentary, it was understandable. Then I got medically retired and found other activities. I did volunteer charity work. After 7 years I got pregnant again. This time I was not able to exercise. Other problems followed me. It was a difficult pregnancy. I had to find a way to get iron into me, when I couldn't take supplements and my levels were dropping. I ended up eating Milo, a kids drink supplement that contains iron in a form I could tolerate. I had to eat a cupful of this powder a day, to get the amount of iron I was supposed to have. But still the levels dropped. Finally the doctor put me in hospital on a drip to give me iron that way. I gave away my Milo tin the next day. But Milo is loaded with sugar, and it put weight on me. After difficult child 3 was born, I dieted. I ate lots of muesli (with oats) and after a few months developed a problem with my health - the problem which later turned out to be due to the oats in the muesli. I can't recall what I weighed, I think it was about 80 Kg. At about that time my liver test results were bad and I had to see a specialist. I know difficult child 3 was still in a stroller, so he was less than 18 months old. I know I didn't weigh more than 80 Kg then. The doctor told me that my liver tests were bad because of my weight, "you are extremely obese," he told me. I had to lose weight. So, given my weight was 80 Kg at the time (I'm fairly sure it was less) - BMI calculates at 29. I WAS NOT OBESE! And certainly not EXTREMELY obese! Since then my weight has been creeping up. For a while I would be able to hold it, but interestingly, it was when I tried to diet to lose weight that my weight would eventually climb higher than it had been. Not being able to exercise, in fact getting increasingly restricted in exercise, was a major factor. I was on a low fat diet from before I had difficult child 3. I stayed on a low fat diet until less than four years ago, when I began the Atkins diet. I lost 10 Kg. But I had to really restrict my intake impossibly, and I found I couldn't do it and stay low-fat. After 10 months I stopped the diet - we were on holidays, it just was not possible. I gained the weight back in six months. And again, a little bit more. Apart from times I try to diet with extreme food restriction (like now) my weight tends to be fairly stable, it has just crept up over the years. But I accept now, that at 97 Kg (as I was before this diet - the last 2 Kg had been a recent addition) I was now overweight. Checking the BMI for me before this diet - BMI was 36. You are obese if your BMI is over 29.9. You are extremely obese if your BMI is over 39.9. I WAS STILL NOT EXTREMELY OBESE! I'm now 91 Kg. That's a BMI of 33. I'm getting there. But to look at me - I don't look that big. I was visiting a friend this afternoon. True, she is shorter than me, but she is much bigger. Her clothes are loose on me. And she weighs about 70 Kg. Maybe if I had not for years been dieting to lose the weight problem which in fact I did not have, I wouldn't have the weight problem, the insulin resistance and the liver problem I have now. I am angry. But I am trying to channel that anger into actively losing weight now. The gastroenterologist (and all info I've been able to find online) says that to begin to decrease the fatty content of my liver, and to also begin to step back from diabetes Type II, even a few pounds weight lost can make a difference. I got the impression that I would need to have a BMI in the extremely obese range for him to prescribe the Reductil, but because of my liver being in dire straits he was able to bend the rules for me. He also said, "You're not big enough yet for me to recommend lap band surgery." That horrified me. I doubt I'm a good risk for surgery anyway, but the thought that he would just wait until I WAS big enough, and then operate, has also given me the drive to lose weight now. So, some pounds/kilos lost, more to go. Roll on the next seven! Marg (pronounced as if you have just shortened my name, as in "Margaret" without the "-aret"). To pronounce it as "Marj" I'd spell it as "Marge". Does that help?) [/QUOTE]
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