Haven't posted in a long time, but reading the posts by others in our situation has given me the strength to do what I know I should do...thank you to everyone! Anyhow, difficult child is doing somewhat better. The drinking is way down. He rarely goes out since he says it's not worth the hassle we give him with the curfew. Finally finished his degree but won't make serious career plans. The job with his uncle is four days a week. The trouble is that difficult child goes into the office any time he feels like it. Uncle does not seem to mind, just docks his pay. difficult child left for work this morning at 11 AM, much yelling at him to get up. It drives us absolutely nuts! difficult child picked up smoking and has a chronic cough which keeps us up, so he sleeps in the basement now. If we need to go down there in the morning and turn on the lights he has a fit! difficult child says he still has sleep issues and therefore has a hard time getting up even though he is on medication and was given counseling on how to improve his sleep, which of course he won't follow. On the advice of his therapist and p-doctor, we are moving him out of the house. They feel he will improve once he is not under the continual scrutiny of mom and dad. We do not give him money. He buys his own food, no more frozen convience **** or weekend carryout for him (he eats peanut butter and fish now! why didn't I do this a long time ago? Live and learn!) Asked for gas money twice this month and we told him NO. He has a bus card and a AAA card in case he gets stranded. The strategy is of course that hopefully he will work more hours and become a better money manager some day. In the meantime how do we survive? The place where he will be living won't be ready for a while (buying very cheap condo, bank keeps putting off closing).