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<blockquote data-quote="rejectedmom" data-source="post: 47778" data-attributes="member: 2315"><p>WOW! I Have been away for a couple of days and therefore have only just read your recent posts. </p><p></p><p>Nomad and Sunny, I will continue to take care of me no matter what I choose to do from this point on.</p><p></p><p>Sunny, Please explain what you mean that Mental illness does stabilize itself. Is that in regard to the individual or the system?</p><p></p><p>Barbara, Thank you for your kind words. Most of our difficult child's are both victim and victimizer. They traumatize us and all those that love them and/or reach out to them but they themselves are also traumatized by their addictions and those that take advantage of their weakness. It is so complicated and you are correct that we can never truly know the extent of the impact we have had or if it be positive or negative or mixed.</p><p></p><p><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: branbran</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I think it's terrible that as young children, we as a society do everything we can to help all difficult children, try to put them on the right track. We know and believe these kids are suffering and their behaviors are more often then not completely out of their control. Then they become adults and all that empathy goes right out the window. They are no longer people with illness, they are now criminals!!! Hang in there. :smile: </div></div></p><p></p><p>Here also it is so complicated. They are indeed mentally ill and deserve understanding and empathy but they are also in many cases committing criminal acts. How should we as a society meld out consequences and serve the need for justice while treating the mental illness also? Should these criminals be released back into society once they have been stabilized even if their crimes are of a heinous nature? I do not advocate that mental illness become a get out of jail free card. I don't think many people do for that matter. So how should we handle this? Reopening facilities for the criminally insane (gosh I hate that term) and staffing them adequately in is an expensive endeavor. Victims of their crimes should not have to pay increased taxes to fund this. Yet without support from the government and a national policy that would ensure that equal measures are enacted across the country there is no real chance for adequate and lasting change. Perhaps another lottery so that participation is voluntary? Maybe the government can provide the funding for education and advocacy while the lottery actually pays for the programs and facilities? Can a national lottery raise enough funds for this? I just do not know. </p><p></p><p>What I do know is that mentally ill inmates spend longer times in jail than other inmates who commit the same crimes but do not have a mental health problem. In addition the chance of re-entry into the judicial system is far greater for those with a MH problem than those without. and the number of inmates in jail with mental ilness has risen dramaticly in recent years.</p><p></p><p>Even sadder is the report recently released by NAMI in which 48 statesmental health care systems were rated. Not a single one got an A. Only five states received grades in the B range. Eight receive Fs. The national average grade is D. </p><p>-RM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rejectedmom, post: 47778, member: 2315"] WOW! I Have been away for a couple of days and therefore have only just read your recent posts. Nomad and Sunny, I will continue to take care of me no matter what I choose to do from this point on. Sunny, Please explain what you mean that Mental illness does stabilize itself. Is that in regard to the individual or the system? Barbara, Thank you for your kind words. Most of our difficult child's are both victim and victimizer. They traumatize us and all those that love them and/or reach out to them but they themselves are also traumatized by their addictions and those that take advantage of their weakness. It is so complicated and you are correct that we can never truly know the extent of the impact we have had or if it be positive or negative or mixed. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: branbran</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I think it's terrible that as young children, we as a society do everything we can to help all difficult children, try to put them on the right track. We know and believe these kids are suffering and their behaviors are more often then not completely out of their control. Then they become adults and all that empathy goes right out the window. They are no longer people with illness, they are now criminals!!! Hang in there. [img]:smile:[/img] </div></div> Here also it is so complicated. They are indeed mentally ill and deserve understanding and empathy but they are also in many cases committing criminal acts. How should we as a society meld out consequences and serve the need for justice while treating the mental illness also? Should these criminals be released back into society once they have been stabilized even if their crimes are of a heinous nature? I do not advocate that mental illness become a get out of jail free card. I don't think many people do for that matter. So how should we handle this? Reopening facilities for the criminally insane (gosh I hate that term) and staffing them adequately in is an expensive endeavor. Victims of their crimes should not have to pay increased taxes to fund this. Yet without support from the government and a national policy that would ensure that equal measures are enacted across the country there is no real chance for adequate and lasting change. Perhaps another lottery so that participation is voluntary? Maybe the government can provide the funding for education and advocacy while the lottery actually pays for the programs and facilities? Can a national lottery raise enough funds for this? I just do not know. What I do know is that mentally ill inmates spend longer times in jail than other inmates who commit the same crimes but do not have a mental health problem. In addition the chance of re-entry into the judicial system is far greater for those with a MH problem than those without. and the number of inmates in jail with mental ilness has risen dramaticly in recent years. Even sadder is the report recently released by NAMI in which 48 statesmental health care systems were rated. Not a single one got an A. Only five states received grades in the B range. Eight receive Fs. The national average grade is D. -RM [/QUOTE]
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