I have only recently found this site -- feel like there is finally someone who understands! I am new to posting so please excuse if I'm messin up some. My difficult child was always "strong willed" but major problems didn't start to senior year. Suddenly 3.4 GPA dropped to failing all but classes needed to graduate. He changed friends, hairstyle, clothing, got many horrible piercings - nose, lips, ears. He became defiant. Would not obey curfew, skipped school, became verbally and physically abusive. Well, we got him through high school and he graduated. A major accomplishment! When he starting refusing to go to his part-time job, we told him he needed to be either in college or working to keep living here, and needed to go to counseling. I didn't want to see the signs of drug and alcohol problems-- thought he was "just" a defiant teen, till we woke up one morning to find him two of his friends passed out in the basement. They had been drinking there all night while we were asleep upstairs! Someone had thrown up in the laundry tub, and, o yeah, did I mention the girl was topless? Nice. I am so sick and tired of all his lies. Sick of his drama affecting all of us at home. Sick of his blaming all his problems on everyone else. I want to give him a move out date, but my husband has not gotten to his breaking point yet so we keep having pointless "talks" in which difficult child promises to "do better" I am just trying to hold it together till my husband reaches the same realization that difficult child's promises are all empty. My heart breaks everyday for the boy that I've lost. This new one is like a stranger. Reading your posts has helped me to feel not so alone. Thank you all for your sharing.