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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 35759" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>MWM, I know it's going to sound cheeky, but Aussies refer to New Zealand as the eastern states of Australia, while New Zealanders refer to Australia as "West Island". Kiwis are great people. We've got jokes about Kiwis and they have jokes about Aussie yobbos. It's friendly stuff but it's also because there are a lot of similarities culturally, between Australia & NZ. Our health care systems, legal systems and education systems are very similar. Because NZ & Australia got going in roughly the same area, at roughly the same time, from British colonisation, we've evolved along similar lines culturally. The biggest differences - NZ traditional indigenous people are very different to ours (not nomadic, for a start - although most of ours aren't these days either); the wildlife is very different (no snakes in NZ, for example) and you get a lot more packed into a smaller space. NZ is a much richer country agriculturally and geologically very different.</p><p></p><p>Politically - NZ is small enough to be able to have a political conscience that I value, instead of being the opportunistic brown-nosers that we have become politically. There have been times when I have been disgusted by Aussie political leaders and at the same time admired the grit of the NZ ones, enough to even consider moving there.</p><p></p><p>Our health care systems have reciprocal arrangements, so close is the relationship. So what works here, works in NZ. In some areas, the same courage shown by NZ politically is also shown medically, in being prepared to listen and think outside the square.</p><p></p><p>I only know as much as I do, because husband & I are planning a holiday there in a couple of months. With our family health problems, we've been doing a lot of homework. I'm really looking forward to the trip, too - there is so much in NZ that is unique, that I've wanted to see since I was a small child. difficult child 3 is fairly OK now with travel - we do have some problems but he's getting more capable of dealing with major change and upheaval.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there are any differences between what would be diagnosed in Australia, and what would be diagnosed in NZ, but I'm fairly sure that here also, NZ would be a close match to Australia. So, to advise Ngaire - think about what you would advise me. I'm sure it will help.</p><p></p><p>Ngaire, I hope today has been better for you - I hope you got some vital rest, too.</p><p></p><p>One concern I have - with your mental health system, will they intervene and hospitalise him for assessment? In Australia this is uncommon, because our hospitals won't admit them for more than a few days. I hope NZ is better in this than we are.</p><p>To find out (if the welfare people or the police haven't already told you) you could try calling a mental health help line and ask their advice. I did something similar over here on behalf of someone else, and after calling about three different places ("I can't help you, but ABC organisation might, here is their number...") I eventually had the answers to my questions. These counselling lines are also supposed to be confidential, so you don't have to worry they'll have your details and tell everyone about your problems.</p><p></p><p>One more STRONG recommendation - keep your names, ID etc hidden. Not that anyone here is going to abuse the info, but it leaves you freer to say what you want to without fear of being tracked by people you'd rather not have see what you write here. For example, when difficult child 3 was still in mainstream school and I was having HUGE fights with the local teachers and education officials, I could vent away here and KNOW that none of my problem people could track what I was saying; nor could they pick up on advice I was being given, and prevent me from implementing it. This gave me more power, and more knowledge to safely change difficult child 3's situation with a minimum of hassles.</p><p></p><p>And one more thing Ngaire - on a lighter note, there is slang that you & I would use in polite conversation, that is forbidden on this site. Similarly, you may be shocked by some of the words that ARE permitted here. I just go with the flow and try to not trangress too often. It's a b*g**r, ain't it?</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 35759, member: 1991"] MWM, I know it's going to sound cheeky, but Aussies refer to New Zealand as the eastern states of Australia, while New Zealanders refer to Australia as "West Island". Kiwis are great people. We've got jokes about Kiwis and they have jokes about Aussie yobbos. It's friendly stuff but it's also because there are a lot of similarities culturally, between Australia & NZ. Our health care systems, legal systems and education systems are very similar. Because NZ & Australia got going in roughly the same area, at roughly the same time, from British colonisation, we've evolved along similar lines culturally. The biggest differences - NZ traditional indigenous people are very different to ours (not nomadic, for a start - although most of ours aren't these days either); the wildlife is very different (no snakes in NZ, for example) and you get a lot more packed into a smaller space. NZ is a much richer country agriculturally and geologically very different. Politically - NZ is small enough to be able to have a political conscience that I value, instead of being the opportunistic brown-nosers that we have become politically. There have been times when I have been disgusted by Aussie political leaders and at the same time admired the grit of the NZ ones, enough to even consider moving there. Our health care systems have reciprocal arrangements, so close is the relationship. So what works here, works in NZ. In some areas, the same courage shown by NZ politically is also shown medically, in being prepared to listen and think outside the square. I only know as much as I do, because husband & I are planning a holiday there in a couple of months. With our family health problems, we've been doing a lot of homework. I'm really looking forward to the trip, too - there is so much in NZ that is unique, that I've wanted to see since I was a small child. difficult child 3 is fairly OK now with travel - we do have some problems but he's getting more capable of dealing with major change and upheaval. I don't think there are any differences between what would be diagnosed in Australia, and what would be diagnosed in NZ, but I'm fairly sure that here also, NZ would be a close match to Australia. So, to advise Ngaire - think about what you would advise me. I'm sure it will help. Ngaire, I hope today has been better for you - I hope you got some vital rest, too. One concern I have - with your mental health system, will they intervene and hospitalise him for assessment? In Australia this is uncommon, because our hospitals won't admit them for more than a few days. I hope NZ is better in this than we are. To find out (if the welfare people or the police haven't already told you) you could try calling a mental health help line and ask their advice. I did something similar over here on behalf of someone else, and after calling about three different places ("I can't help you, but ABC organisation might, here is their number...") I eventually had the answers to my questions. These counselling lines are also supposed to be confidential, so you don't have to worry they'll have your details and tell everyone about your problems. One more STRONG recommendation - keep your names, ID etc hidden. Not that anyone here is going to abuse the info, but it leaves you freer to say what you want to without fear of being tracked by people you'd rather not have see what you write here. For example, when difficult child 3 was still in mainstream school and I was having HUGE fights with the local teachers and education officials, I could vent away here and KNOW that none of my problem people could track what I was saying; nor could they pick up on advice I was being given, and prevent me from implementing it. This gave me more power, and more knowledge to safely change difficult child 3's situation with a minimum of hassles. And one more thing Ngaire - on a lighter note, there is slang that you & I would use in polite conversation, that is forbidden on this site. Similarly, you may be shocked by some of the words that ARE permitted here. I just go with the flow and try to not trangress too often. It's a b*g**r, ain't it? Marg [/QUOTE]
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