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<blockquote data-quote="smallworld" data-source="post: 8731" data-attributes="member: 2423"><p>Sheila and Martie, thanks so much for your insight.</p><p></p><p>To fill in the picture a bit more, difficult child 2 has been struggling with inattention and inability to engage in schoolwork and homework all year. She was a straight-A student last year. This year in 6th grade, her individual test, quiz and project grades are all over the map (literally A through F). She never in her life failed a math test (her strongest subject) before this year. When we met with school officials both in September and December, they claimed it was merely an adjustment to middle school that was causing the grade scatter (I didn't buy it, but I'm only the mom). Her psychiatrist thought the inattention was related to anxiety and depression and added Lexapro the first week in December. The psychiatrist also increased Lamictal by 25 mg to cover any mood instability that might occur. difficult child 2's mood is now less irritable and more even, and she is falling asleep more easily at night. But the inattention has persisted, and she seems to be having an even harder time settling down to do homework at night. Im not convinced it's related to mood (but could it be anxiety?), and we have never before thought she had ADHD. After reading Martie's post, I'm now beginning to question whether the inattention is a side effect of Lamictal. I've faxed the psychologist's report over to the psychiatrist and have a call into her to see what she thinks.</p><p></p><p>About her Perceptual Reasoning score (increased from 121 to 131): I'm actually not surprised it jumped 10 points because I thought that index score was low in her first testing. When she was 7.5 years old, she took the Raven as part of our SDs GT testing. She scored a 51 out of 60, which would have qualified her as GT as an 11-year-old. The Raven correlates with the Matrix Reasoning subtest of the WISC-IV, and difficult child 2 this time scored an 18 (last time she scored a 14), which I think is more commensurate with her abilities. </p><p></p><p>About her Verbal score (dropped from 126 to 108) and Working Memory score (dropped from 104 to 86): difficult child 2 is not a reader. I have questioned for a long time why a bright child would not want to read. Her WJ-III reading scores are not all that bad, except for relative weaknesses in Passage Comprehension at 107 (67th percentile) and Reading Fluency at 108 (70th percentile). Many professionals have suggested that the internal noise from difficult child 2s mood disorder interferes with her ability to attend to reading. When I asked the first neuropsychologist who tested her in July 2005, he said she doesnt like to read because she has a relative weakness in Working Memory, and its hard to keep the details in mind as she reads. I find it ironic that both Verbal and Working Memory dropped 18 points perhaps they are related? Or could we finally be seeing a reading Learning Disability (LD) surfacing? Hard to know.</p><p></p><p>Coincidentally, her brother (difficult child 1) underwent neuropsychologist testing in December. His full-scale IQ dropped 19 points, but his testing in 2001 was the WISC-III and this time around it was the WISC-IV, which I understand is a harder test. His Verbal score dropped 17 points, but hes still in the Superior range so I'm not as concerned as I am with difficult child 2. In addition, hes still significantly depressed, and weve been told depression can depress IQ scores. We have a meeting with his psychiatrist next week to go over his neuropsychologist evaluation and figure out where he should go to high school next year (yikes!).</p><p></p><p>If anything jumps out at you, please let me know. Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smallworld, post: 8731, member: 2423"] Sheila and Martie, thanks so much for your insight. To fill in the picture a bit more, difficult child 2 has been struggling with inattention and inability to engage in schoolwork and homework all year. She was a straight-A student last year. This year in 6th grade, her individual test, quiz and project grades are all over the map (literally A through F). She never in her life failed a math test (her strongest subject) before this year. When we met with school officials both in September and December, they claimed it was merely an adjustment to middle school that was causing the grade scatter (I didn't buy it, but I'm only the mom). Her psychiatrist thought the inattention was related to anxiety and depression and added Lexapro the first week in December. The psychiatrist also increased Lamictal by 25 mg to cover any mood instability that might occur. difficult child 2's mood is now less irritable and more even, and she is falling asleep more easily at night. But the inattention has persisted, and she seems to be having an even harder time settling down to do homework at night. Im not convinced it's related to mood (but could it be anxiety?), and we have never before thought she had ADHD. After reading Martie's post, I'm now beginning to question whether the inattention is a side effect of Lamictal. I've faxed the psychologist's report over to the psychiatrist and have a call into her to see what she thinks. About her Perceptual Reasoning score (increased from 121 to 131): I'm actually not surprised it jumped 10 points because I thought that index score was low in her first testing. When she was 7.5 years old, she took the Raven as part of our SDs GT testing. She scored a 51 out of 60, which would have qualified her as GT as an 11-year-old. The Raven correlates with the Matrix Reasoning subtest of the WISC-IV, and difficult child 2 this time scored an 18 (last time she scored a 14), which I think is more commensurate with her abilities. About her Verbal score (dropped from 126 to 108) and Working Memory score (dropped from 104 to 86): difficult child 2 is not a reader. I have questioned for a long time why a bright child would not want to read. Her WJ-III reading scores are not all that bad, except for relative weaknesses in Passage Comprehension at 107 (67th percentile) and Reading Fluency at 108 (70th percentile). Many professionals have suggested that the internal noise from difficult child 2s mood disorder interferes with her ability to attend to reading. When I asked the first neuropsychologist who tested her in July 2005, he said she doesnt like to read because she has a relative weakness in Working Memory, and its hard to keep the details in mind as she reads. I find it ironic that both Verbal and Working Memory dropped 18 points perhaps they are related? Or could we finally be seeing a reading Learning Disability (LD) surfacing? Hard to know. Coincidentally, her brother (difficult child 1) underwent neuropsychologist testing in December. His full-scale IQ dropped 19 points, but his testing in 2001 was the WISC-III and this time around it was the WISC-IV, which I understand is a harder test. His Verbal score dropped 17 points, but hes still in the Superior range so I'm not as concerned as I am with difficult child 2. In addition, hes still significantly depressed, and weve been told depression can depress IQ scores. We have a meeting with his psychiatrist next week to go over his neuropsychologist evaluation and figure out where he should go to high school next year (yikes!). If anything jumps out at you, please let me know. Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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