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<blockquote data-quote="recoveringenabler" data-source="post: 728688" data-attributes="member: 13542"><p>Hi Laker.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree with that quote. Two of my siblings are schizophrenic, schizoaffective and bi-polar, my father was likely undiagnosed bi-polar, same with my daughter, a couple of cousins and more......not one of them knew/know/accepted that they are mentally ill.....even as they express their obvious delusions which can be completely out of touch with reality.....yet each one of them in some fashion, has managed to handle their lives. Not always what I would have chosen or felt good about, but they all managed. My dad supported his family all his life, my sister got her Masters in Fine Art and became a successful artist. Folks <u>can </u>be resourceful and find meaningful lives even if they don't know they are mentally ill. Mental illness in my opinion, does NOT excuse people from ever being responsible for themselves unless they are psychotic or completely removed from reality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolutely. A huge struggle for most of us.</p><p></p><p>I think trying to get your son government help is an excellent idea. I tried that with my daughter too, but she would not follow thru on her part.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, you deserve your own life, with all the peace and joy you can muster. My husband is a wonderful guy too and at our age now, we are looking at OUR fun and OUR joy..... my daughter continues to struggle somewhat, but without me enabling her, she has taken her struggles onto herself and is doing okay with it all. She's moving ahead on her own terms.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In my experience YES, he can. I've observed most of my family do this throughout my life. Lack of insight and lack of awareness of their conditions has not stopped those in my family from surviving and at times thriving. Mental illness like everything else is different for each individual. The other part of it is manipulation. The only one in my family who specialized in manipulation was my daughter. I think it is a part of how she has survived. However, I stopped allowing her to manipulate me and she actually stopped. She may manipulate the rest of the world, but she doesn't try it with me anymore, she knows I won't allow it. My family members are exceedingly bright, high IQ's, very creative, brilliant in some ways........they have all been able to learn how to treat others and now to adapt to the world they live in in spite of their mental illness and in spite of the fact that they are not aware that they are mentally ill.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="recoveringenabler, post: 728688, member: 13542"] Hi Laker. I disagree with that quote. Two of my siblings are schizophrenic, schizoaffective and bi-polar, my father was likely undiagnosed bi-polar, same with my daughter, a couple of cousins and more......not one of them knew/know/accepted that they are mentally ill.....even as they express their obvious delusions which can be completely out of touch with reality.....yet each one of them in some fashion, has managed to handle their lives. Not always what I would have chosen or felt good about, but they all managed. My dad supported his family all his life, my sister got her Masters in Fine Art and became a successful artist. Folks [U]can [/U]be resourceful and find meaningful lives even if they don't know they are mentally ill. Mental illness in my opinion, does NOT excuse people from ever being responsible for themselves unless they are psychotic or completely removed from reality. Absolutely. A huge struggle for most of us. I think trying to get your son government help is an excellent idea. I tried that with my daughter too, but she would not follow thru on her part. Yes, you deserve your own life, with all the peace and joy you can muster. My husband is a wonderful guy too and at our age now, we are looking at OUR fun and OUR joy..... my daughter continues to struggle somewhat, but without me enabling her, she has taken her struggles onto herself and is doing okay with it all. She's moving ahead on her own terms. In my experience YES, he can. I've observed most of my family do this throughout my life. Lack of insight and lack of awareness of their conditions has not stopped those in my family from surviving and at times thriving. Mental illness like everything else is different for each individual. The other part of it is manipulation. The only one in my family who specialized in manipulation was my daughter. I think it is a part of how she has survived. However, I stopped allowing her to manipulate me and she actually stopped. She may manipulate the rest of the world, but she doesn't try it with me anymore, she knows I won't allow it. My family members are exceedingly bright, high IQ's, very creative, brilliant in some ways........they have all been able to learn how to treat others and now to adapt to the world they live in in spite of their mental illness and in spite of the fact that they are not aware that they are mentally ill. [/QUOTE]
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