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<blockquote data-quote="Ephchap" data-source="post: 8178" data-attributes="member: 27"><p>Wildcatsfan,</p><p></p><p>First of all, welcome. This is a very supportive group. Sorry you had to find us though. I do know some of what you're going through.</p><p></p><p>While drugging, most of our kids are very different. They can lie and look you right in the eye. They can steal and look you right in the eye and lie about it. We can ask them about drugging, and again, they can look us in the eye and deny it.</p><p></p><p>I would first like to strongly suggest that you lock up (and I don't mean in a portable safe that can be removed) any valuables. If it means taking out a safe deposit box or bringing things to a relative's home, I'd do it. If only I had listened to that little voice in my head when the first item or two disappeared, it would have kept my things safe. I kept thinking he couldn't have possibly taken them. I was wrong. Yes, he sold them for drugs, and at the time, never thought twice about it probably. Getting his next high was all he cared about.</p><p></p><p>I never went through the court system for help, although my son was eventually arrested. Prior to his court appearance, he had agreed to help and we went through the county's MHMR agency. I made a gazillion phone calls - to the university hospital, to their psychiatric wing, to the psychiatric hospital, to his pediatrician, to his psychiatrist, to anyone and everyone I could think of. </p><p></p><p>Once someone finally mentioned a dual-diagnostic (psychiatric and substance abuse) facility about 3 hours from here that they thought would be a good fit, we made another gazillion calls to find out how we could get him in, and afford to pay for it.</p><p></p><p>In the end, he was admitted to the facility, and was placed on SSI or something through the agency. They based it on his income (which was 0) or something. I'm not quite sure, even now, all the ins and outs of how they did it. I do know that they came up with a figure, which we ended up having them rework a bit, of what we could afford to pay out of pocket. It really was minimal.</p><p></p><p>Some have had success in going through the courts for help. We didn't. In some states/areas, it works. The system here in Michigan was more eager to put him in adult jail for breaking the law, than they were in helping a 17 year old with psychiatric problems and substance abuse problems get better.</p><p></p><p>My heart goes out to you. If he's drugging, the spiral has begun. The lying and stealing go hand in hand with the drugging.</p><p></p><p>Everyone has had different experiences, so again - I'm not saying going through the court system won't work. I'm only giving you our experience. If the court system in your area seems to work for helping juveniles turn things around, then you're fortunate.</p><p></p><p>Again, welcome aboard. We're here for you - for a shoulder to lean on. This is a rough road not for the faint of heart.</p><p></p><p>Sending hugs,</p><p>Deb</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ephchap, post: 8178, member: 27"] Wildcatsfan, First of all, welcome. This is a very supportive group. Sorry you had to find us though. I do know some of what you're going through. While drugging, most of our kids are very different. They can lie and look you right in the eye. They can steal and look you right in the eye and lie about it. We can ask them about drugging, and again, they can look us in the eye and deny it. I would first like to strongly suggest that you lock up (and I don't mean in a portable safe that can be removed) any valuables. If it means taking out a safe deposit box or bringing things to a relative's home, I'd do it. If only I had listened to that little voice in my head when the first item or two disappeared, it would have kept my things safe. I kept thinking he couldn't have possibly taken them. I was wrong. Yes, he sold them for drugs, and at the time, never thought twice about it probably. Getting his next high was all he cared about. I never went through the court system for help, although my son was eventually arrested. Prior to his court appearance, he had agreed to help and we went through the county's MHMR agency. I made a gazillion phone calls - to the university hospital, to their psychiatric wing, to the psychiatric hospital, to his pediatrician, to his psychiatrist, to anyone and everyone I could think of. Once someone finally mentioned a dual-diagnostic (psychiatric and substance abuse) facility about 3 hours from here that they thought would be a good fit, we made another gazillion calls to find out how we could get him in, and afford to pay for it. In the end, he was admitted to the facility, and was placed on SSI or something through the agency. They based it on his income (which was 0) or something. I'm not quite sure, even now, all the ins and outs of how they did it. I do know that they came up with a figure, which we ended up having them rework a bit, of what we could afford to pay out of pocket. It really was minimal. Some have had success in going through the courts for help. We didn't. In some states/areas, it works. The system here in Michigan was more eager to put him in adult jail for breaking the law, than they were in helping a 17 year old with psychiatric problems and substance abuse problems get better. My heart goes out to you. If he's drugging, the spiral has begun. The lying and stealing go hand in hand with the drugging. Everyone has had different experiences, so again - I'm not saying going through the court system won't work. I'm only giving you our experience. If the court system in your area seems to work for helping juveniles turn things around, then you're fortunate. Again, welcome aboard. We're here for you - for a shoulder to lean on. This is a rough road not for the faint of heart. Sending hugs, Deb [/QUOTE]
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